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Gender studies professor defends giving student zero grade for using phrase 'biological women' (USA)

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IwantToRetire · 11/06/2023 18:59

Melanie Rose Nipper, a 28 year-old adjunct professor of sexuality studies at the University of Cincinnati, vehemently stood by her grading practices Thursday.

She did so after student Olivia Krolczyk complained about being failed for using the previously uncontroversial term 'biological women', now branded offensive over claims it excludes trans women.

she continued to defend her decision - stating that while classrooms are sites where discourse should always be welcome, that ends when 'you are, intentionally or unintentionally, participating in a systemic harm of some kind.'

The term 'biological female,' she said, constitutes such an attack - as it exclusionary to people who are transgender.

When a student uses 'outdated terminology,' Nipper added, she will always take that opportunity to correct those mistakes.

'Not a zero for the course - a zero for an assignment.' Nipper said of her stringent, potentially illegal policy she said takes pleasure in administering.

The student's proposal sought explore milestones reached by female athletes in sports, such as the first women to compete at the Paris Olympics in 1900, and the current fight by female athletes to keep transgender women from women-only even.

To illustrate this point, she used the scientific phrase 'biological women' - solely to differentiate between athletes who are transgender, and the women who she claimed are being displaced by the recent advent of liberal elitism in US universities.

'I was told I was implementing TERF ideology, which is Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism,' Krolczyk recounted in another TikTok that has also gone viral - as officials have confirmed they are probing whether Nipper did any wrong.

NB these are just paragraphs I have picked out, not the whole story.

(Sorry for DM link - may be covered elsewhere https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12180019/Gender-studies-professor-BRAGS-failing-students-offend-woke-gender-beliefs.html )

Professor BRAGS about failing students who offend her woke beliefs

An adjunct professor of sexuality studies, Melanie Rose Nipper, 28, stood by her grading practices Thursday - in what looks to be the latest blowup involving leftist lessons in public schools.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12180019/Gender-studies-professor-BRAGS-failing-students-offend-woke-gender-beliefs.html

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Suncreamweather · 12/06/2023 00:55

The Times, the Daily Mail & The Telegraph have been phenomenal of late & are reading the room.
However the Daily Mails researchers need a payrise! The articles lately are on the money about what exactly is going down.

IwantToRetire · 12/06/2023 01:48

Agree that the DM does some great articles, but when you look at the comments section you get the impression that their usual readers aren't that interested in women's sex based rights.

And not forgetting their really diabolic coverage of KJK in Australia and New Zealand.

Wonder if they will report of the LWS event in Geneva that had to be cut short because of what the mail calls Trantifa.

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Nellodee · 12/06/2023 07:37

AuntyPonsonby · 12/06/2023 00:15

This is not true at university level.

And even where it is true, getting a particular question wrong would not mean losing the marks for all the other questions that you got right.

DdraigGoch · 12/06/2023 11:52

Maddy70 · 11/06/2023 23:53

Every exam board has set answers. If you don't meet that criteria you fail rightly or wrongly they will have been told what to do to pass

One of the things that was impressed upon me when I was in education was to read the content thoroughly before writing about it.

It is patently obvious that you haven't read beyond the headline.

QuintanaRoo · 12/06/2023 12:00

That adjunct professor needs sacking and I say that as a senior lecturer.

Im gender critical m sometimes I mark work which is very gender critical and looking at stuff more from a “trans ally “ pov. As long as they back their argument up and reference it I mark it no differently from how I’d mark something which aligned to my own view. I’m not there to impose my view on students. Thankfully I don’t teach gender studies

duc748 · 12/06/2023 15:14

This is the point. This is what you have to see. There is no - can be no- word that encompasses all the group that used to be called women, and excludes all the group that used to be called men, which is acceptable to the current shape of trans activism, because that whole concept is something they do not accept has legitimacy. Any term (and this isn't conjecture, we have seen it happen) that can be used to name the group that used to be called women will very quickly be labelled "transphobic" and "dog whistle" because as far as they are concerned, the concept itself is transphobic so any reference to that concept, any word for it, is proof of transphobia and must be rooted out and made unsayable.

Spot-on, Rhinos!

SinnerBoy · 12/06/2023 17:27

IwantToRetire · Today 01:48

Wonder if they will report of the LWS event in Geneva that had to be cut short because of what the mail calls Trantifa.

I think it's what they call themselves, rather than the Mail coming up with it.

And I think they're siding with JKR, KJK, Julie Bindel etc not because they're supportive of women's rights, as you said, but rather, to "poke the woke."

A couple of years ago, it was sneering at JKR for being a stupid leftie, who didn't like the idea of sinking refuge boats in the Channel.

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BluebellBlueballs · 02/07/2023 01:05

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/06/2023 20:00

No, that doesn't work. Cis-woman excludes trans men, a lot of NBs... it misses a whole bunch of the group that used to be called women. The closest we can get under their rules is Assigned Female At Birth.

But I promise you, if AFAB becomes a commonly used term for the group that used to be called women, if it starts being used to talk about what AFAB people experience, want and need separate to AMAB people, it will also become unsayable.

This is the point. This is what you have to see. There is no - can be no - word that encompasses all the group that used to be called women, and excludes all the group that used to be called men, which is acceptable to the current shape of trans activism, because that whole concept is something they do not accept has legitimcy. Any term (and this isn't conjecture, we have seen it happen) that can be used to name the group that used to be called women will very quickly be labelled "transphobic" and "dog whistle" because as far as they are concerned, the concept itself is transphobic so any reference to that concept, any word for it, is proof of transphobia and must be rooted out and made unsayable.

Ain't that the truth. Well said

BluebellBlueballs · 02/07/2023 01:09

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/06/2023 23:56

Cis-women? I know it's treated with loathing around here, but it's not true to say there is no terminology to express what you mean.

It is. I'm not a "cis woman" as I don't identify that way and nor are female people who don't identify as women or girls.

Cis means your gender identity aligns with your birth sex. I don't have a gender identity, so how can I be cis?

I prefer the term female but it's already been taken by some transwomen so that ones off the table.

Apollo441 · 02/07/2023 02:34

The words woman and female will only be taken if you let them. Argue at every opportunity. Refuse to accept their language. There are many many more of us and it's a war that they cannot win.

viques · 02/07/2023 02:50

I hope all the people who have been saying “ Aw bless, does it matter, call trans people what they like, it will make them feel happy in their skins, be kind, let them use the pronouns they want” are beginning to realise the importance and strength of language, TRAs cottoned on to this fast which is why they have been diminishing the value of women’s language, and chipping away at the words we use to describe ourselves and our bodies, stealing our words to steal our identities..

I am sorry for the student involved, and I hope higher ups in her university see sense and reverse the decision, but in a way I am pleased ridiculous situations like this are happening, the more people hear about and recognise the crazy the quicker it will stop.

Sunnava · 02/07/2023 06:17

Apollo441 · 02/07/2023 02:34

The words woman and female will only be taken if you let them. Argue at every opportunity. Refuse to accept their language. There are many many more of us and it's a war that they cannot win.

Exactly. And female as a term holds strong on science and society meaning XX chromosomes.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/07/2023 06:25

IwantToRetire · 02/07/2023 00:06

Good news!

TheGreatATuin · 02/07/2023 07:23

she continued to defend her decision - stating that while classrooms are sites where discourse should always be welcome, that ends when 'you are, intentionally or unintentionally, participating in a systemic harm of some kind.

I thought this was interesting. I would argue that intentionally or unintentionally, she is participating in a systemic harm by shutting down and penalising female students who want to talk about issues that affect women.

Backstreets · 02/07/2023 07:26

So Olivia got an A and the adjunct has to learn about free speech? How incredibly satisfying! Although with how the adjunct protested sounds like she might very well be out of a job soon.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 02/07/2023 07:32

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/07/2023 06:25

Good news!

It's Ohio, though, which is a relatively conservative state (albeit with some Democratic strongholds). If this had happened in California, I suspect the professor would have been celebrated.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/07/2023 17:19

Great update.

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