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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Granddad's Pride a picture book for under 7s

75 replies

Imnobody4 · 06/06/2023 11:58

I despair this could have been a positive book instead of this.

The gay community rightly and successfully distanced itself from bigoted allegations that "gayness" is somehow associated with paedophilia. This kind of book does untold damage by dragging in fetishes, unnecessary surgeries, and other references which are, at least, questionable.

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Heliotroper · 07/06/2023 16:39

So Grandad explained that when he was a young man there were men who were only interested in cock. All the children formed a ring around him, fell around laughing and called the sad old man a bigot.

Moonandstarz · 07/06/2023 23:36

Jesus, what have I just looked at? The guys in fetish gear.. When my dc were the ages of 2-7 we read the Gruffalo etc... And why bring Grandads into it? Thiz book is chilling... MAP how is this becoming a thing, MAP is a serious, criminal offense & needs the highest level of therapy not pride of place in "Granddad's Pride" trying to make it appear innocent & mainstream..
The grooming is everywhere.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 08/06/2023 01:44

I don’t understand why this crock of shit was ever allowed to see the light of day. Why is no one connected with its production being investigated and why aren’t booksellers being prosecuted for selling it. It’s clearly paedophilia hiding in plain sight, but why is no-one being held to account.
It's so depressing, I can’t believe what’s happening in the world at the moment. People are going through hell in Ukraine, women are suicidal in Afghanistan due to having their rights completely suppressed and perverts are getting a free pass in the western world because it’s apparently fashionable to be ‘diverse’ and ‘inclusive’.

EpicChaos · 08/06/2023 01:47

KJK did a video about that book earlier on, which is how i found out about it.
What a disgusting book!
And to think they used to get their knickers in a knot over Enid Blyton books! Jeeez!

Heliotroper · 08/06/2023 10:04

Moonandstarz · 07/06/2023 23:36

Jesus, what have I just looked at? The guys in fetish gear.. When my dc were the ages of 2-7 we read the Gruffalo etc... And why bring Grandads into it? Thiz book is chilling... MAP how is this becoming a thing, MAP is a serious, criminal offense & needs the highest level of therapy not pride of place in "Granddad's Pride" trying to make it appear innocent & mainstream..
The grooming is everywhere.

Granddads are brought in to give it a more homely appeal

Heliotroper · 08/06/2023 10:07

When Granddad was at Pride, it would have been a totally different experience, radical, angry but joyous featuring all sorts of grass roots activists

Now Pride is a procession of corporate sponsored floats and lectures featuring corporate sponsored opinions with dissent being purged.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 08/06/2023 10:53

Right behind a sign declaring "Lesbians and Gays support the miners"

Annanirvana · 21/08/2023 19:07

One of the images has a banner with "trans kids are magic".

Clymene · 22/08/2023 01:00

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-parents-pull-daughter-nursery-8685208

It's been shown to kids at a preschool in Hull. They've now removed the book after initially saying that children wouldn't understand the images. Criticism is apparently bigoted and homophobic according to the publisher Hmm

Rightsraptor · 22/08/2023 05:04

And the nursery staff member the parents spoke to saw no problem with the book because the children were so young they wouldn't understand the sexual references.

There's someone who deserves to lose her job.

They defended book on the grounds that Waterstones etc stock it. So it must be good, right? 🙄

When will the idiots who say 'oh, you're just a bunch of bigots and homophobes anyway' start to hear themselves?

Annanirvana · 22/08/2023 06:52

Not to mention the hidden messages, such as a banner saying "trans kids are magic" and the letters MAP (and not map). I will leave you to look MAP up

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 22/08/2023 18:41

Will Taylor has just been interviewed on local BBC news. He was very articulate in why it is a problem (just because children don’t understand an adult thing, doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to do it in front of children). The statement from the publishers say it’s a faithful representation of what children see at a Pride event so it’s fine.

IcakethereforeIam · 22/08/2023 18:52

That's a reason to not take them to pride, not a reason to put pride in a children's book! Ffs!

These people are idiots!

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 22/08/2023 20:54

IcakethereforeIam · 22/08/2023 18:52

That's a reason to not take them to pride, not a reason to put pride in a children's book! Ffs!

These people are idiots!

Well, exactly.

HazelHair · 24/08/2023 21:52

This is seriously worrying. Hiding in plain sight.

Undercoverinthelibrary · 25/08/2023 20:42

I work in a library and we have been told to say, if anyone complains, that the image of grandad in bondage is a realistic image....as per this

https://www.booktrust.org.uk/book/g/grandads-pride/

They have given no thought to anything else that appears in the book. If your library holds a copy...please please complain..libraries are very captured but not all the staff are!

Grandad’s Pride

The sequel to the Waterstones Children’s Book Prize winning Grandad’s Camper is full of verve and beautiful illustration from author-illustrator Ha...

https://www.booktrust.org.uk/book/g/grandads-pride

IcakethereforeIam · 25/08/2023 20:46

Iirc there was a thread about this book a little while ago (or a thread where it was mentioned) in the American edition the illustrations were changed.

Is it worth leaving reviews on the Booktrust site, or do they get vetted and removed?

Undercoverinthelibrary · 25/08/2023 20:49

I have no idea if they vet and remove reviews..try it and see..be interesting!!

IcakethereforeIam · 25/08/2023 21:06

I've submitted a review, actually a positive one overall, just commented on the unsuitability of men in fetishwear. Perhaps I'll give 'em the weekend. Didn't have to leave an email but I'm still half expecting the West Yorkshire Police rapid response team to turn up and kick my door down. I hope one of them doesn't look like my sister, I'd have to say something.

queenofthewild · 25/08/2023 21:21

And to think back in the day there were complaints about Katie Morag because there was an illustration of a baby being breastfed.

Elsiebear90 · 25/08/2023 21:29

I’m really sick of a small group of men trying to associate LGB with fetish and kinks, I’m a lesbian and I have no interest in BDSM or anything related to it, it’s not tied to being gay (plenty of straight people are into bdsm and plenty of gay people aren’t) and kids don’t need to be exposed to fetishes as part of inclusivity, why couldn’t grandad just have a nice husband? Why the need to have them in bondage gear? It just plays into the hands of people who think gay people are perverted and unsuitable for children to be exposed to.

Undercoverinthelibrary · 25/08/2023 22:14

IcakethereforeIam · 25/08/2023 21:06

I've submitted a review, actually a positive one overall, just commented on the unsuitability of men in fetishwear. Perhaps I'll give 'em the weekend. Didn't have to leave an email but I'm still half expecting the West Yorkshire Police rapid response team to turn up and kick my door down. I hope one of them doesn't look like my sister, I'd have to say something.

I'll look out for it

Undercoverinthelibrary · 30/08/2023 20:05

IcakethereforeIam · 25/08/2023 21:06

I've submitted a review, actually a positive one overall, just commented on the unsuitability of men in fetishwear. Perhaps I'll give 'em the weekend. Didn't have to leave an email but I'm still half expecting the West Yorkshire Police rapid response team to turn up and kick my door down. I hope one of them doesn't look like my sister, I'd have to say something.

Oddly the seemed to have deleted the whole page

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2023 21:43
On The Line Laughing GIF by Jenny Lewis

Bwah-ha-ha, ha-ha!

Although I thought my review was quite nice.

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