Britons’ support for trans people in single-sex spaces is among lowest - IPSOS survey

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A majority of Britons are sympathetic to discrimination faced by trans people, according polling — but support for them to use single-sex spaces and receive medical treatment in their teens is among the lowest in the world.

The UK came third-last of 30 countries when ranked in public support “that transgender teenagers should be allowed to receive gender-affirming care, such as counselling and hormone replacement treatment, with parental consent”.

Forty-seven per cent of Britons either strongly agreed or somewhat agreed with the statement, while 35 per cent disagreed and 18 per cent were not sure.

UK was the second-lowest of 30 countries in terms of support for trans people being allowed to use the public toilets of their choice.

Thirty-six per cent of Britons agreed that “health insurance systems should cover the cost of gender transition no differently than the costs of other medical procesures” — the fourth-lowest proportion of the 30 countries.

Britons’ support for gender-affirming healthcare fell in the bottom three of the 30 countries surveyed.

Much more at https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/majority-of-britons-sympathise-with-trans-people-who-face-prejudice-7vrjzv8dx

I found the article quite hard to follow. There may be better coverage elsewhere.

Article is behind a paywall but can be read by pasting the Times article web link above in https://archive.ph

The article refers to an "LGBT+ Pride report, compiled by Ipsos" - were the polls commissioned by TRAs? It would go some way to explaining the loaded question design.

The first stage in commissioning a poll, is deciding what you want the answer to be.

But they didn’t ask if the NHS should cover it. Lots of people in the UK will think ‘health insurance systems’ means private care like BUPA

Trans People cannot use opposite sex single sex spaces, they can only use same sex spaces or mixed sex spaces. A more accurate question would be ‘should all single sex spaces be turned into mixed sex spaces at the behest of trans people and without any warning to the other users?’

I had a look but couldn't find it on Ipsos' website. It appears to be a regular, perhaps annual report.

Terrible, terrible question design! If I turned in such a poorly designed questionnaire I'd get my knuckles wrapped, at the very least.

You can't draw any meaningful conclusions when you've asked such badly designed questions.

Even with the badly designed questions they still didn't get the answers they wanted which is rather amusing.

What discrimination? What rights do trans people not have?

Could it be because the TRA lobby is so loud and violent? It is drawing people's attention to the fact that what they have up-to-now thought of as a trans woman (someone who has had GRS) is actually as likely to be a chap in a dress, maybe not even a dress, possibly with a beard?

Because when i hear people say "why wouldn't you allow a trans woman in a women's changing room?" and then they are shown actual pictures, they more often than not change their mind. Seeing a load of masked up burly people scream abuse at women gathered in a park on a sunny day? Not something that attracts sympathy for anyone than the women. Is there more of that in the UK than other places?

I wish someone, anyone would fucking answer this question.

The right for their Special Glittery Feels to trump everyone else's rights?

That's probably bang on @SidewaysOtter but of course they will never admit that.

Unfortunately, yes, that seems to be the answer given by the actions - since no words will ever be offered.

It is about male people with trans identities having the right to matter more, and to get what they want, and for excluding and harming women to be an acceptable price to pay for their happiness and freedom.

And fuck off with that mate. It's the thinking of a male supremacist, not anyone on the side of equality, inclusion or kindness.

Yes, a very misleading question. Accidentally on purpose?!

The Ipsos research found that 64 per cent of Britons believe that transgender people face at least a fair amount of discrimination.

Bad use of the word "fair" in that sentence. If it came from the survey question, Ipsos should be (even more) ashamed.

No ‘accidentally’ about it.

“Do you think the amount of discrimination transgender people face is fair?”

I thought IPSOS were experts on survey design?

As others have said this was a commissioned survey and they have done similar ones for Pride in previous years.

But based on YouGov that I signed up to do take survey it is becoming more and more obvious that those who use YouGov (are rather their mailing list) dont have the first idea how to construct a valid survey. (Easy for me to just go through answering dont know to each question and then fill out the box at the end saying how the whole thing was invalid!)

I imagine they are holding on to the actual survey results until after the officials launch.

oops - have just seen they have post a press release today!

7 pages long so may have to look at it later.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2023-05/Ipsos%20LGBT%2B%20Pride%202023%20Global%20Survey%20Report%20-%20Press%20release.pdf

The press release is no better than the survey, as criticised above, in terms of the woolly language used. Given that the UK has the NHS (for some unexplained reason, the survey only relates to Great Britain), questions about what should be covered by health insurance are open to misinterpretation and misunderstanding. Similarly, given the already protected characteristics, in UK law, of gender reassignment and sexual orientation it is potentially unclear how GB respondents would interpret what was asked.