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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transwoman complaining that Finance Sector is too male...

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Pluvia · 29/05/2023 15:17

Reece Tomlinson doesn't seem to have noticed the irony of a white man complaining that the banking-investment sector is too full of.... white men.

http://archive.today/L35Me

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nepeta · 29/05/2023 20:18

Someone said, in another context, that the women's group in an IT company has only trans women in the committee.

I have no idea if this is true, but it would be feasible in such a heavily male dominated industry for this to happen.

AlisonDonut · 29/05/2023 20:35

Owlglasses · 29/05/2023 16:40

This person's viewpoint sums up something I can't understand about how a person raised as a boy can identify as a woman. If you're raised as a girl then from birth the 'being a woman' seeps into you like you are a sponge. In everything that happens to you and is said to you (or unsaid) you are a girl. The fear of predatory men, the worry about being on public transport alone, the imagining the horror of rape, the need to be 'pretty or quiet or subservient, the seedy uncle, dolls and pink things, the keep your knees together and smile, the how to be a girl in the company of other girls and the how to be a girl in the company of boys. The casual sexism, prejudice, the cat calling when you're barely a teenager, the starting your periods when you are in a class of boys at school, the being treated second best at school/college/work/home. It becomes you for better or worse and is as much what it is to be a woman as having a vagina.

How do people raised as boys assimilate all that when they identify as a woman? And if they don't, then are they a woman?

I hope someone, perhaps someone who has been through this, can explain it to me.

The mistake you are making is seeing all that as bad.

They see it as Cis Priviledge.

They have to work hard to pass enough to be treated like a woman.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/05/2023 20:39

dropthevipers · 29/05/2023 18:53

Er, is it some kind of entry requirement that to become a TRA you must be thick as shit?

Well yes, obviously. Because you have to accept as axiomatic a thing that does not stand up to even the slightest critical thought.

Or to be slightly more charitable, you can be very very clever...and still run into problems because you are still not as clever as you think you are.

I work with very very clever people and the big traps for them are arrogance, confirmation bias and the need to be the cleverest person in the room making them overthink and overcomplicate things.

IMO the cleverer you are, the more important it is to seek out people, viewpoints and information that might contradict your own conclusions. You have to keep on refining your thoughts and always be prepared to be proven wrong.

Ironically, the only way to make sure your conclusions are rock solid is to be prepared to change them.

Coffeesnob11 · 29/05/2023 21:02

I work in the city, this reminds me of a diversity conference I went to. Lots of white men talking about how diverse their companies were until I looked up their boards. All were white male boards mainly and had recruited white men into board positions in the last 3 months. The woman sat next to me and I switched off after that. I know of 1 transman in our industry. The transman works in the same job, no big fuss no special awards etc. Whereas he we are someone using it as a marketing took, awards etc.

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