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ROGD Paper withdrawn

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IcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2023 18:46

I've just learned about this. Whatever you do, DO NOT follow the link below to download the paper. Also, please tell and share with everyone you know so they don't make the same mistake that I'm about to.

https://twitter.com/profjmb/status/1661022522446610434?s=20

https://twitter.com/profjmb/status/1661022522446610434?s=20

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TheBiologyStupid · 24/05/2023 10:39

BonfireLady · 24/05/2023 06:44

Yes me too.

It seemed at odds with other information, such as the Tavistock figures.

A few thoughts on that:

  1. Many autistic girls are diagnosed late. The Tavistock's figures said the just over one third of referrals had autism. Two of their clinicians wrote a research paper where they also included those with autistic traits, which brought it to 48%
  2. Many of those who identify as trans on this survey are likely to desist before they end up with a referral to a gender clinic. Autistic children are more likely to "lock in" an identity, so are more likely to be among the last ones standing.
  3. Social contagion will affect many children. Perhaps the demographic has shifted again to a wider impacted group. Those with anxiety were very highly represented.
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Good points. The survey included large numbers who had not been seen by a gender clinic.

Boiledbeetle · 24/05/2023 19:21

IcakethereforeIam · 23/05/2023 19:09

Sorry, I forgot. You can't see what my eyebrows are doing or see me winking.

See I read the original post with a raised eyebrow and assumed you winked at the end.

But then I'm used to your posts so 😉

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IcakethereforeIam · 24/05/2023 23:36

To be fair Beetle they're not my real eyebrows anymore. Those, I think, have left our solar system. I make new ones out of construction paper. I try to stick them on firmly but they still fly off from time to time.

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LesNot · 25/05/2023 01:07

Perhaps the lower rate of diagnosed autism for girls is related to the slow acknowledgement of autism being present at all in girls as the symptoms differ iirc. It certainly wouldn't be the first time girls were an afterthought.

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nettie434 · 29/08/2023 14:22

Interesting because it's unusual to ask people completing a survey to fill in a separate consent form. You usually find all the blurb about it being research, why it's being done, who funded it etc and then a link taking you to the survey stating that completing the survey indicates you are consenting. Maybe there wasn't something like that at the beginning but that's what usually happens. If it's an anonymous survey by definition you don't need a consent form.

I'll read those links to what the lead researcher thinks with interest. Wouldn't dream of downloading article 😜

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