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Pharma links to trans movement.

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OldGardinia · 16/05/2023 17:29

Far from the first time someone has explored this and I want to be clear I personally haven't vetted this article. But it does contain interesting statements from a nurse and appears to source its facts.

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/how-left-wing-activist-group-teamed-up-with-big-pharma-to-push-radical-gender-ideology-on-american-hospitals/

Right-wing source as so often has to be as Left Wing mainstream seems not to cover trans lobby critically. Aside from statements about how internal critics at hospitals are pressured to be silent. A few quotes which stood out to me:

"...a Wisconsin district court ruled that the state’s Medicaid agency had to cover "gender-conforming surgery." The court’s reasoning was the same as Human Rights Campaign’s: To cover mastectomies for breast cancer but not gender dysphoria, it said, "discriminates on the basis of diagnosis."

"Lawyers will always advise hospitals to take the most legally defensive course of action," Sapir said. "In practice, that means deferring to the network of civil rights groups that will sue them."

"Last year, for example, the Human Rights Campaign deducted points from two Texas hospitals, UT Southwestern Medical Center and Children’s Health in Dallas, because they stopped using puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria but continued to use them to treat precocious puberty—the blockers’ original purpose. That "amounts to discrimination against transgender youth," the Human Rights Campaign argued in a press release."

It's a fairly long article and actually quite good, imo. Big photo of Trump in a sidebar may put some people off.

How A Left-Wing Activist Group Teamed Up With Big Pharma To Push Radical Gender Ideology on American Hospitals

It was 2019 when Beth Rempe, then a nurse at Children’s National Hospital in Washington, D.C., first noticed the change. Doctors were wearing pins sporting the transgender flag. Nurses were asking children, most with no history of gender dysphoria, fo...

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/how-left-wing-activist-group-teamed-up-with-big-pharma-to-push-radical-gender-ideology-on-american-hospitals

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/05/2023 18:17

"discriminates on the basis of diagnosis."

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Isn't that rather the point of diagnosis - to enable you to pick a treatment appropriate for the condition?

OldGardinia · 17/05/2023 08:38

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/05/2023 18:17

"discriminates on the basis of diagnosis."

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Isn't that rather the point of diagnosis - to enable you to pick a treatment appropriate for the condition?

Well yes. And furthermore, drug approvals are done for specific diagnoses so if something is approved for one condition it doesn't mean it's been approved for another. And yet as per this article, an actual judge ruled that not giving puberty blockers for being trans when you were willing to give them for precocious puberty was discrimination.

Absolute madness. The article is filled with background like that which is why I thought it might be of interest. The trans movement seems to have grown at an unprecedented rate. This looks at some of the money behind it.

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Shelefttheweb · 17/05/2023 08:53

Well yes. And furthermore, drug approvals are done for specific diagnoses so if something is approved for one condition it doesn't mean it's been approved for another. And yet as per this article, an actual judge ruled that not giving puberty blockers for being trans when you were willing to give them for precocious puberty was discrimination.

It’s crazy isn’t it? Why did the judge over-rule the FDA drug licensing system?

Ofcourseshecan · 17/05/2023 09:21

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/05/2023 18:17

"discriminates on the basis of diagnosis."

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Isn't that rather the point of diagnosis - to enable you to pick a treatment appropriate for the condition?

Exactly. The judge’s decision is so stupid, and so obviously harmful, it surely could be appealed?

Shelefttheweb · 17/05/2023 09:57

Ofcourseshecan · 17/05/2023 09:21

Exactly. The judge’s decision is so stupid, and so obviously harmful, it surely could be appealed?

I guess the issue here is who appeals? There does seem to be an issue with the way common laws are created by courts as it seems to rely on incorrect decisions being appealed by people who aren’t in a position to do so or for whom it is not financially viable. And interested parties are often not part of the case - so in the case that lead to GRA there was no one representing women. And in this case was there anyone representing the FDA? And once the case has concluded these interested parties can’t bring an appeal as not part of the original case.

Hagosaurus · 17/05/2023 10:35

Hopefully changes to the law in some states to allow detransitioners to sue if they feel they had inappropriate treatment will help redress the balance in treatment decisions

Rightsraptor · 17/05/2023 11:29

While the US has many admirable qualities, I don't think the political appointing of judges is one of them. I don't know about this judge, but it seems possible to me that this is political interference in medicine, which should not happen.

NotHavingIt · 17/05/2023 12:14

Another useful article on trans medicine and who is funding it; this time in Jewish magazine, 'Tablet':

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

OldGardinia · 17/05/2023 19:22

Shelefttheweb · 17/05/2023 09:57

I guess the issue here is who appeals? There does seem to be an issue with the way common laws are created by courts as it seems to rely on incorrect decisions being appealed by people who aren’t in a position to do so or for whom it is not financially viable. And interested parties are often not part of the case - so in the case that lead to GRA there was no one representing women. And in this case was there anyone representing the FDA? And once the case has concluded these interested parties can’t bring an appeal as not part of the original case.

Unless a trans person chooses to sue for the reckless malpractice of prescribing him or her inappropriate drugs, then the only other injured party is the public who see their tax money funnelled into big pharma bank accounts.

And if you could sue the US govt. for corruption the White House wouldn't have a brick left.

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