Anyone seen the latest from John amaechi?

[resistingreality]

He’s posted on twitter. https://twitter.com/JohnAmaechi/status/1658090759164248066

The ratio doesn’t look good for him which is quite heartening. A while ago I posted here saying I’d been on a panel with him and without saying too much, I was not that surprised to later discover how willing he is to tell women how they should think and what they should accept.

Anyway my point here is that I think many public figures have dug in so deep to this position that they simply can’t back out without losing face. So they dig in deeper. I would say billy bragg is in the same position.

I expect this has been written about elsewhere …. but it seems to me they need some help to extract themselves while maintaining a bit of dignity? What could that look like? Or should we just say stuff them?

I normally agree about the golden bridge back, but in the last day, and post-Isla Bryson, he's posted this. Garden variety woke misogynist, can get tae fuck as far as I'm concerned.

I have been watching him. He is blocking so many women who are trying to discuss it with him. Sadly, twitter is not the place for the conversation, but I doubt anyone in real life will be able to talk to him as well. He has also attempted to leverage people with DSDs into the discussion as well.

He even blocked Cathy Devine trying to point out the issues regarding sports!

So male. A man having or not having a 'peek at boobs' - hee hee, paging Robin Askwith, good naughty fun.

Now turn it around and look at the women, made to be in the same space as a cock and a body that is stronger than theirs, without their consent. If they object, laugh, get upset or react in any way, it's a porn fantasy for that man. That's the imbalance. That's the violation. LEGALLY supported violation of women.

What makes this guy so worthy of discussion?Looks like another mansplainer/transplainer, to add to the millions of others.

Isn't he the guy who told me I'm a white supremacist just because I'm white. Intuitive.

This. Ignorant, arrogant misogynist of the sort we have seen a hundred times. No point at all in thinking about golden bridges or trying to reason with him.
In any case, I suspect people this lacking in self knowledge or intellectual honesty don’t need golden bridges because when the time comes they will just conveniently forget what they used to say. Golden bridges are only useful to the truly thoughtful and he is not that.

I think Wings sums up my feelings.

https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/1658159200181137411?s=20

No idea who this man is, but glancing at the thread it's striking how his responses differ when he's talking to men and talking to women. And all of his given examples are from the pov of men, you'll note.

I appreciate that a man can't actually know how it is to be a woman, but you'd think if he was going to opine on women, women's rights, and experiences, he might at least pretend to try to understand our views.

"Trans Women do NOT go through years of therapy, gender-affirming medical care and public scrutiny to get a peek at boobs in a women’s locker room… nor, I suspect, to win a medal in the pool."

No, John, that's right - they don't. They don't go through therapy, they don't get "gender-affirming medical care". They just put on a wig and a dress, if that, and then, wham bam, they're in the women's changing room and winning first prize in the women's 100m freestyle. Look at Lia Thomas for a standout example.

Agree that describing voyeurism as 'peeking at boobs' is fucking outrageous.

What's he going to call flashing?

Who even is this horrible man?

if he’s posted for asspats he’s not getting them, which is great. Perhaps awful men are starting to find out they no longer have a free lunch to bully women and get praised for it, and they’ll stop when it’s longer rewarding them.

Though some of them are no doubt sincerely committed to the cause of male supremacy 😖 - they’ll be the diehards.

For the avoidance of doubt, I am not supporting or excusing Amaechi. I posted this partly because I am angry about it. I have had several encounters with him through work. In the corporate sector (maybe elsewhere) he is treated with a sort of reverence which I have always found difficult to understand, especially as my encounters with him have been quite negative. On each occasion, I got the strong impression that he did not like people (women?) disagreeing with him (I disagreed with him) and that how he treats people relates to how 'important' he thinks they are (he did not think I was 'important' and he's right, I'm not ... but then nobody is more important than anyone else in my view). So when he started spouting this gender nonsense I was not remotely surprised - just even more outraged that he is treated as some sort of guru in the worlds in which I move, professionally. Anyway, I think this is important not only for what it says about him as an individual but also for what it says about the corporate world and the lack of critical thinking around so gender and D&I more generally.

I've seen from his Twattings that he's using the circular argument that a man IDing as a woman who then goes onto abuse etc, isn't a trans.

So, they're women just when they say so, but not a trans when others who believe they can ID as a woman, also say so they're not.

I'm worn out with the mental gymnastics of it all.

He's a new one for me and it's obvious that he's a complete flump.

I wonder what his reaction would be, if he was in some sort of club for Black people and some KKK members demanded to be let in, because they identified as being Black?

I suspect he'd be somewhat less accommodating.

Who is he and why is anyone supposed to care what he thinks?

@Ereshkigalangcleg He's an ex-basketball player who now does a lot of work in D&I and leadership in the corporate world. As I say, he's treated as something as a guru there - and is pretty well known. Does a lot of sort of motivational talking etc, that kind of thing. A lot of people in that world really DO care what he thinks.

He's a Jedi Knight, don'tcha know?

All I can say, even Yoda couldn't make sense of his shit.

It is in no way surprising that someone who buys into that kind of Kendieasque antiracism as a job would also support this. It's the same ideology.

So male. A man having or not having a 'peek at boobs' - hee hee, paging Robin Askwith, good naughty fun

This. So make. So entitled. So arrogant.

Minimises voyeurism to the plot of a carry on film.

Reinvents the actual issue as 'just voyeurism'. And because that's as important as the plot of a carry on films, it's insignificant.

And shows up his total ignorance over what constitutes being trans. And then doesn't understand that's it's not about being trans anyway, it's about being male.

And then tops the whole thing off with a complete misunderstanding of the definition of the word woman and why we ask for it.

Yes mate, your mum is a woman.

I can see why you think he might be reachable. He's ignorance leads one to hope that if he understood better, he might get it.

Which, indeed he might, but the pull to be a sexist prick will be greater, I suspect

I've never heard of this guy.

Whilst I'm not arrogant enough to believe if I haven't heard of someone, they can't be well-known, I do still think a lot of these people post stuff like this to boost their profile.

@derekfaker - yes, possibly. Although I would add that although his fame might be in a quite narrow sphere, it is one in which he is sort of revered. I have been at talks he has given where many audience members have been moved to tears. I have always remained entirely unmoved. 😃

On this topic, at one talk he gave, he described how he has a special set of clothes he wears to go and get a coffee, to avoid being racially abused. I would not dispute his experiences of racism. However, it is so strange that he has these experiences as a Black man and yet cannot understand that women are also able and entitled to speak from their own experiences - which by definition, will be different from his.

'talks he has given where many audience members have been moved to tears.'

IDK, that kind of arrogance solipsistic view can sometimes make your eyes water.

I'm not sure if us on the GC side of this culture (un)civil war understand how strong the pull and obligations of #BeKind #LiveYourAuthenticLife #SomePeopleAreTransSoJustGetOverIt are to the liberal/anti racism/critical theory crowd.

For them, this is not semantics, it's threaded through their whole philisophical existence.
POC discrimination and racism/slavery/Empire/white Enlightenment/homophobia/gay rights etc etc, the attitude to trans is framed thru this prism. Once you see science and empiricism as irrelevant or indeed tainted by cis white male heterosexual orthodoxy that led to trans being the most marginalised group in history, then it's just a small step to promote and protect trans above and beyond all others, indeed use the fight for black rights and gay liberation as the step up to highlight this cause.

Of course in this intersectional cosmic game of Top Trumps, some groups have to sacrifice and move over. First it was Jews, with this endless demeaning game amongst post modernist liberals as to whether Jews are indeed non-white thus deserving of protection, or not just white, but the whitest of white, and deserving of full frontal liberal attacks.

And more relevant to this forum, women needing to "move along now, dear", trans want your space, and not even "just" that, but your very definition. And the way Amechi and his clan do this, is by so diffusing and obfuscating the definitions of women to effectively make the female group indeterminate, that pretty much anyone can apply and tick all the boxes.

Except of course post-Adam Bryson where the Amechi Directive means that the moment a TIM commits a sexual or violent crime, he's no more a woman, magically the trans free pass is taken away.

We now have madness layered on madness. John Amechi dictates that Adam Bryson can be a woman. Adam Bryson rapes women. John Amechi dictates that Adam Bryson isn't a woman.

I call this the Quantum Theory Of Gender, you can be all things to all...men, but certain men can assign you purely on intent, and then re-assign you, you can literally be in two places at once.

@realityfan thanks for this analysis, it's fascinating. I agree.

Me and John have "form" lol.

He's already defined me as suffering white supremacy. That's enough for one lifetime. Now I'm a transphobe as well.

Aka, racist, Nazi etc.

Yada yada yada.

@realityfan ... well, he shut me down on a panel we were once on in front of an adoring audience, and then told me afterwards that he actually agreed with me. Nice.