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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kathleen Stock talking sense

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Jezzz · 15/05/2023 15:30

On Times radio this morning

https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1658058452239806466

https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1658058452239806466

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TheBiologyStupid · 15/05/2023 16:13

Thanks!

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 15/05/2023 20:10

I think she's awesome

Premiumbondbaby · 15/05/2023 20:49

I hope they stream the debate like they did the last time. KS is awesome.

Whyjustwhy123 · 15/05/2023 21:44

She’s so articulate 👏

ArabeIIaScott · 15/05/2023 21:49

😍

Inamuddle36 · 15/05/2023 22:54

I like her comment along the lines of “I probably should be considered non-binary”. Perhaps that’s what we should all say. Take claim of the term “non-binary” and take the wind out of the sails of the T movement.
(I tried recently when a DC told me a friend is “non-binary”. I replied “oh, you mean like me?” Pause. Quizzical look. So I continued “you know… sometimes I wear a dress, sometimes I enjoy arranging baking cakes, sometimes I wear trousers or power suits, sometimes I am a tough negotiator, etc. Is your friend like me?”. DC mumbled “I think the term means something different”….
But I will persist. If we all claim to be in-restricted by stereotypical ideas of gender, then we can all be non-binary and those who are currently experimenting with the label will realise it isn’t really very special.

Boiledbeetle · 15/05/2023 23:10

When she talks she just sounds so incredibly normal and relatable, yet by all accounts just hearing her voice we should all be jibbering wrecks rocking in the corner because of the literal damage her words cause!I

What's the betting the people calling for her complete silencing have never listened to or read a single word she has ever spoken?

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 15/05/2023 23:30

@Inamuddle36 indeed nothing takes the cool out of a social contagion like being told me too

MavisMcMinty · 16/05/2023 10:26

Inamuddle36 · 15/05/2023 22:54

I like her comment along the lines of “I probably should be considered non-binary”. Perhaps that’s what we should all say. Take claim of the term “non-binary” and take the wind out of the sails of the T movement.
(I tried recently when a DC told me a friend is “non-binary”. I replied “oh, you mean like me?” Pause. Quizzical look. So I continued “you know… sometimes I wear a dress, sometimes I enjoy arranging baking cakes, sometimes I wear trousers or power suits, sometimes I am a tough negotiator, etc. Is your friend like me?”. DC mumbled “I think the term means something different”….
But I will persist. If we all claim to be in-restricted by stereotypical ideas of gender, then we can all be non-binary and those who are currently experimenting with the label will realise it isn’t really very special.

Heh! I too have been thinking along those lines, although chance’d be a fine thing, as I never (knowingly) meet anyone for whom “trans” is any kind of issue at all. While I think/hope my parents would have laughed and refused to refer me to GIDS, 50 years ago I was a tomboy who wished I was a boy pre-puberty and dreaded growing breasts, saying I’d “cut them off”. Puberty cured me, (along with my influential best friend moving far far away).

PaleUninteresting · 16/05/2023 10:52

Damn she’s good. So clear-headed and reasonable. I was so woolly-headed on this before I came across her it’s made me start paying more attention to my own tendency to cosy groupthink on lots of things

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