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NZ Maori women write about the Let Women Speak events in NZ

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Whaeanui · 15/05/2023 07:15

This is from Mana Wahine Korero, the group who organised the Let Women Speak NZ leg of the tour, along with LOUT, a lesbian group. This is excellent and I’ve been waiting to see if they’d write something like this. It’s long and actually I found it very sad. They organised the events with a lesbian group, they had spent lots of time organising and prepared some very special gifts from our culture to present to Posie. I feel so heartbroken for them. Their moment to have their say and share our culture with someone they hoped would help them let NZers know what was happening. Give them an actual voice. I haven’t finished reading, but I just wanted to share with you all who supported them so much.

Please read this for all the women who didn’t get to speak and those including Posie who were assaulted for wanting to be heard.

Mana Wahine Korero

Six weeks since Kellie-Jay Keen: reflections from Mana Wāhine Kōrero - Plain Sight - Sarah Henderson

Tēna koutou, tēna koutou, tēna koutou katoa.  Six weeks ago, in a historic inner-city park, two & a half thousand New Zealanders descended upon a

https://plainsight.nz/six-weeks-since-kellie-jay-keen-reflections-from-mana-wahine-korero/

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ArabeIIaScott · 15/05/2023 12:43

Moira Deeming has been expelled? For what?

ArabeIIaScott · 15/05/2023 12:43

Whaeanui · 15/05/2023 12:42

I understand how frustrating it is to have people condone the violence but I don’t think we should give it too much of our time. These women never got to speak, here they are speaking to us and we should not let people once again stop the conversation being about them.

Thank you, yes. It would be great to hear more from these women.

If you are in touch with them, can you let them know they are always welcome on MN?

Whaeanui · 15/05/2023 12:47

Thanks @ArabeIIaScott I’m in touch, Rex and Diane are lovely and live where I’m from originally. I’ll let them know! They do see all the support here :)

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AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 15/05/2023 12:51

Whaeanui thank you. Very moving.

I am ignoring the goading, derail attempts and whataboutery, keep the NZ Maori women centred here.

WickedSerious · 15/05/2023 12:52

This reply has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

Wrong thread.

DerekFaker · 15/05/2023 12:54

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 15/05/2023 12:51

Whaeanui thank you. Very moving.

I am ignoring the goading, derail attempts and whataboutery, keep the NZ Maori women centred here.

Yes you're right. It's the same old bollocks

DerekFaker · 15/05/2023 13:03

ArabeIIaScott · 15/05/2023 12:43

Moira Deeming has been expelled? For what?

I'll make a thread so this one doesn't get dragged off topic.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 15/05/2023 13:06

Good idea Derek.👍

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/05/2023 13:07

landOFconfusion · 15/05/2023 11:53

It’s disappointing and disingenuous to suggest that wāhine Māori weren’t also standing on the other side of the barricades to defend their whenua and whānau against Posie Parker and her toxic worldview.

I admire and applaud every person who stood up and pushed back against the small minded wickedness of the Ingarihi nauwhea.

Oh really? You know a woman was so badly injured (head injury) that she had to be admitted to hospital? You admire the thug who inflicted those injuries?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/05/2023 13:10

Anyway, back on topic - that's a very well written and very powerful article. The pictures are very striking.

Helleofabore · 15/05/2023 13:49

So, I assume then that the people being called evil are this group of brave women? Nothing new?

In which case, it is always glaringly obvious that nothing but full capitulation for this group of women is good enough. No women are obviously allowed to have a different opinion.

I am certain they will continue to meet and campaign. I listened to Rex and others give their contributions to the consultation and I am in awe of them.

Whaeanui · 15/05/2023 13:56

Thank you @Helleofabore I’m in awe too!

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ArabeIIaScott · 15/05/2023 14:04

DerekFaker · 15/05/2023 13:03

I'll make a thread so this one doesn't get dragged off topic.

Thank you!

Boiledeggandtoast · 15/05/2023 14:19

Thank you for sharing Whaeanui, the injustice makes me want to weep. What brave, thoughtful and courageous women.

Hagosaurus · 15/05/2023 14:27

Thank you for sharing, Whaeanui, it’s a sad, reflective, important read. I hope your politicians see it. I think ours should too

Alwaystheweather · 15/05/2023 17:50

landOFconfusion · 15/05/2023 11:53

It’s disappointing and disingenuous to suggest that wāhine Māori weren’t also standing on the other side of the barricades to defend their whenua and whānau against Posie Parker and her toxic worldview.

I admire and applaud every person who stood up and pushed back against the small minded wickedness of the Ingarihi nauwhea.

Your side would have trampled KJK to death if her security had not succeeded in getting her out.

You need to look a little more carefully at who the toxicity was coming from that day.

SargentSagittarius · 15/05/2023 19:13

Women defending women’s rights and just wanting single-sex spaces are ‘monstrous’.

Male-bodied people must be prioritised at all costs.

You heard it here first.

Valeriekat · 28/05/2023 21:02

What? Women like Marama Davidson "white cis men" !

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