WHO advice on sexuality for infants

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ARticle in the Telegrpah covering the WHO guidance that has become a legal requirement in Welsh schools:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/13/outrage-over-who-advice-on-sexuality-for-infants/

"The advice proposes that four-to-six year olds should be taught to “talk about sexual matters” and “consolidate their gender identity”....

It recommends that children under the age of four should be told they have “the right to ask questions about sexuality” and “the right to explore gender identities”.

The WHO guidance also says that children aged four and under should be taught about “enjoyment and pleasure when touching one’s own body, early childhood masturbation”...

These topics are described as the “minimal standards that need to be covered by sexuality education”.

A government spokesperson said: “The UK Government does not recognise this WHO guidance and we don’t agree with its recommendations. We have not distributed or promoted it to schools.

“We offer our own guidance to help schools to teach children and young people about relationships and health.”

However, the WHO guidance, first published in 2010, was cited in a 2017 report commissioned by Welsh ministers entitled “Informing the Future of the Sex and Relationships Curriculum in Wales”.

The report was commissioned to “inform the development of the future Sex and Relationships (SRE) curriculum”, which became legally enforceable in Welsh schools last year, although it did not adopt all of the recommendations in the report conducted by Cardiff University.

Laura Anne Jones MS, shadow minister for education in Wales, said the WHO “needs to rescind the advice immediately”.

Ms Jones also called for the Welsh government to “distance themselves” from the “frankly disturbing” WHO guidance."

Lot more detail in the article.

This was always the end game. The glitter people were/are useful idiots to mask the true intent. It's all about paedophiles getting access to children, whether those "children" are castrated, eternally-pubescent but legal adults, or actual children, when safeguarding has been broken down.

ScrollingLeaves - "Jill Tweedie seemed unpleasant and rather smug."

I think there is a lot of snobbery there too. That was a time when "accents" REALLY, REALLY mattered.

How dare Whitehouse with her common regional accent have the jumped-up cheek to think her views are worthy of consideration by her plummy-accented, "Officer Class" betters, so supremely confident despite their ignorance and biases!

That class snobbery is still very much alive today but not with quite the same force as in the 1970s.

I think there is a parallel with the "grassroots vs global" battle now between "local" organisations concerned with safeguarding children vs WHO/UN/etc.

Can anyone point out this part in the document as I can't locate it and would like to read the actual text

'The WHO guidance also says that children aged four and under should be taught about “enjoyment and pleasure when touching one’s own body, early childhood masturbation”...'

The section on sexual behaviour has this text

Begins p70?

unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000260770/PDF/260770eng.pdf.multi

@ResisterRex pg 70 on is what I have screen shot. I can't find any reference in the document to 0-4 year old la being taught about masturbation.

Read and check the facts before you get too worried.

A complete aside, but it's so jarring now to see Jill Tweedle having a fag in the middle of the interview!!!

Flounder2022 it is in the "Matrix" in this document, page 38

WHO Standards for Sexuality Education

https://www.bzga-whocc.de/fileadmin/user_upload/BZgA_Standards_English.pdf

Remember Poppy.

Thank you

WHAT?????

consolidate their gender identity

How do you do this without reinforcing restrictive sex stereotypes? If we tell four year olds clothes are just clothes, toys are just toys, pink/blue are just colours and anyone can do any job, then what are they basing these gender identities on?

Who’s Poppy?

Are people actually reading the documents before commenting or doing so based solely on media articles?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35351522

Thank you.

Flounder I have posted this previously but just as reminder to anyone finding this thread . . .

Existing thread here - the Telegraph article is based on the report by Safe Schools Alliance UK: 👇

Where did PIE go? WHO and UNESCO new guidance has routes in Queer Theory, Sex Positivity and believes children are "sexual from birth"

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4796258-where-did-pie-go-who-and-unesco-new-guidance-has-routes-in-queer-theory-sex-positivity-and-believes-children-are-sexual-from-birth

That thread has links to the documents so that people don't have to rely on reports in the press.

There’s an AIBU thread about this article with some heated comments claiming the telegraph article is misleading and inflammatory and questioning what WHO’s advice actually is on ‘sexuality education’.

It’s not actually a very edifying debate with precious little evidence, but is interesting how some are so quick to decry any concerns about what’s being taught in RSE these days. A completely different world experience between AIBU and WFR sex and gender discussions. Being sent to the naughty step of MN has effectively siloed discussions.

Btw, really don’t appreciate the Thatcher comment

Flounder2022 · Today 15:21
Are people actually reading the documents before commenting or doing so based solely on media articles?

Yes, I have read the Matrix Bosky posted.

Literally no words. Feeling sick reading this.

What parts of the documents make you feel that way? I've been reading them over the course of today and found them really interesting and well balanced.

Why?

Do you mean you've read the WHO and the UNESCO documents and find well balanced and interesting?

I do indeed @Boiledbeetle

If you disagree I would be interested in knowing what part you disagree with. I'll concede we are likely to have different option on the references to gender identity, but aside from that?

I'm just going to repeat what I said when I first read them, as it still stands after reading them fully:

To those in power thinking those documents are acceptable and that they contain appropriate guidance for what to teach children of various ages:

You sick sick bastards.