Tucker Carlson's speech to the heritage foundation

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I just watched Tucker Carlson's speech to the heritage foundation and it spoke directly to my soul.

Our governments condone sexual mutilation of children and it is WRONG.

Carlson has been sacked for speaking up.

Carlson was also sacked for saying a lot of things more despicable even than that.

I certainly think we are on the wrong track in facilitating transing of children. My last post was badly phrased and I apologise. Carlson is a pretty despicable person and this is probably the only area where he and I have any overlap of opinion at all.

That wasn’t what he got sacked for.

He's actually racist, misogynistic, Trump-supporting bastard who deserved sacking a long time ago. I'm delighted he's been sacked.

That is NOT why he was sacked. Laughing at the idea of Tucker Carlson being the Maya Forstater of the US.

It's not publicly known why Carlson was sacked. At the moment Fox News seems to be leaking video recordings recorded over a period of time on occasions when he was in the studio, although off air, to show he was a wrong 'un, but all that indicates is that some kind of dirty tricks power struggle is going on.

I dunno, I suspect the 750 million settlement with Dominion might be relevant. But if you suspect the Fox News Network is suddenly firing people with gender critical views because they are all TRAs ... well who am I to say it is batshit.

Don't put words into my mouth, thanks.

ok then. I'll tell you that it is very clear to the public why Tucker Carlson was canned - and it has nothing to do with his gender critical views (which are shared by the entire of Fox News - insofar as they can be said to actually hold a view - and all of their base and viewers)

It’s not even clear that Carlson knows why he’s been sacked, so I seriously doubt anyone on MN does, but I’ll lay good money that it doesn’t turn out to be his views on gender.

He's critical of the US uniparty, endless wars and the military industrial complex, that's why he's gone.

That speech was good I thought.

I don't know why he was sacked but I'm guessing the network felt they might be sued by a big company etc.

EXHIBIT 276Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

By Jim Rutenberg, Jeremy W. Peters and Michael S. Schmidt
April 26, 2023
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The day before Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation trial against Fox News was set to begin in a Delaware courthouse, the Fox board of directors and top executives made a startling discovery that helped lead to the breaking point between the network and Tucker Carlson, one of its top stars.
Private messages sent by Mr. Carlson that had been redacted in legal filings showed him making highly offensive and crude remarks that went beyond the inflammatory, often racist comments of his prime-time show and anything disclosed in the lead-up to the trial.
Despite the fact that Fox’s trial lawyers had these messages for months, the board and some senior executives were now learning about their details for the first time, setting off a crisis at the highest level of the company, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.
The discovery added pressure on the Fox leadership as it sought to find a way to avoid a trial where Mr. Carlson — not to mention so many others at the network — would be questioned about the contents of the private messages they exchanged in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election.

poor Tucker. another victim of big government. Has someone set up a crowd funder for him?

A lot of Fox's viewers are Democrats. More Dems watch it than CNN, if I recall correctly.

Precisely. 👏🏻

that's interesting ... I suppose. No idea why you thought it was relevant to what I said.

Tucker Carlson is also facing a sexual harassment lawsuit, and apparently, the unreleased material in the Dominion lawsuit is even more damaging. He is a legal liability for the Murdochs. Rupert didn't care that he's racist, misogynist, or opposed the war in Ukraine. Carlson is going to cost him money and that is the only thing Rupert & Co care about.

The fact that you happen to agree with Tucker on this one topic is, at best, a case of a stopped clock being right twice a day. And in the case of Tucker Carlson, possibly not even that, since for him, stopping abortion and stopping trans care are part and parcel of the same thing.

If Fox has more Democratic viewers than CNN (I watch neither) it also reflects its larger viewership... and I know people who tune in to Fox to hate-watch it.

Two interesting suggestions I've heard about the departure of Carlson:

The Murdoch clan are looking to sell Fox News and need to "detoxify" the brand to some extent and giving Carlson the boot achieves that symbolically if not actually.

Additionally or alternatively, it had become apparent that Fox was becoming "Carlson's platform" and Rupert Murdoch in particular didn't want so much power to gather around one employee.

Fox hasn't said it's about Dominion, and if it was they could simply state this. Instead they're allowing people to conclude that it is and in the meantime Fox are leaking stuff to support this view. If this is about Dominion, where are the other sackings? Plenty of people, including people at senior levels, contributed to the Dominion mess and also sent toe-curling emails and texts but why haven't they also been given the boot? Fox are working to land all of this on Carlson's head.

It's possible to analyse the situation without being a Carlson fan or wanting his head on a spike, or without having to wonder whether it's to do with him being gender critical. Which I don't believe for a moment Carlson is, assuming "gender critical" is a meaningful term.

Tucker Carlson's brand is that he will say things other journalists won't.

He's not careful and measured, he's not concerned about being 'called out', he's not tribal. He'll question any sacred cows.

This means that eventually he's going to upset everyone, he's going to get things wrong and he's going to be attacked.

These type of people have been some of the first type of journalists to be prepared to point out without fear, the absurdity and the danger of the Trans movement.

That's why you find yourself 'aligned' with Tucker Carlson.

He's not nice or kind or gentle or considerate (on TV at least) he's provocative, challenging, disagreeable, and doesn't give a damn about the 'backlash' and name calling.

Thank god for people like that.
You always need a few of them around.

Tucker Carlson has not been sacked for speaking out against the TRAs.

I think you are on the right track on this.

I do think that TC, and other people like him, oppose gender ideology for many of the same reasons women here do. Sure, you couldn't say he's gender critical, but I don't see any evidence that it's about not wanting people to get appropriate care, or hating women. Everyone can see that it's unscientific, foolish, and bad for many vulnerable people, both directly and by empowering bad actors. No one has to think all gender roles are imposed by the patriarchy to think those things.

Its not him, it's the fact that any questioning of the narrative gets you taken down that should be alarming people.

Just like with JKR, she's fine, but she's an example to people who can't afford to get fired.

A nice video anyway