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How to complain to school about this course they're advertising

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WhereIsTheEmpowerment · 02/05/2023 20:38

DS goes to a mixed high school. They do a variety of clubs/groups throughout the year, and they've just advertised this one. The group that is coming in to give chats is from from a minority area of the city we live in and they help women who are treat like second class citizens because of their culture/race/religion. They may have been brought up to think this and the group helps explain that they're equal to men and don't need to put up with being treat otherwise.

With that in mind, they're allowing anyone in who identifies as a woman. Some of the young ladies who might want to go to this club are from cultures/religions that don't allow them to mix with anyone other than the same sex as them, and this may prevent them from joining the club and getting the knowledge they may need for a better empowered future for themselves.

I want to complain without coming across as a complete arse. I can't put across in words how this is doing the opposite of what they're trying to do by allowing gender in rather than sex.

How to complain to school about this course they're advertising
OP posts:
Hagosaurus · 02/05/2023 21:07

Hi OP, thanks for taking this on!
Hope the first draft below helps you get started!

Dear xx
This looks like a great initiative, I’m sure many girls in our school community would really benefit from it. Unfortunately, for many that need it most, cultural, social or religious pressures will likely prevent them joining if it is possible that boys (however they identify) will be present.
As I understand it, xx group deals with the pressures of being brought up as a girl. These are things that boys (again, however they identify) will not have had experience of.
Can I gently suggest that, in order to achieve the potential benefit this workshop (?) has to offer, it is, in this case, essential that it be offered specifically as single-sex. Perhaps a group of girls that were willing and able could then provide feedback to any boys who had wanted to attend, enabling the girls to practice some of the skills they will no doubt have been being taught.
Best wishes

dunBle · 03/05/2023 02:39

I like that first draft @Hagosaurus but I think it might also be worth mentioning that if they are allowing those who are biologically male to participate, then playing any kind of contact sport is unwise. Rugby or american football are particularly dangerous, and the school is risking a lawsuit if one of the girls gets concussion or other serious injury from being tackled by a male participant. Perhaps OP can ask to see the risk assessment they've done for the course in general, and the sporting activity part in particular?

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 03/05/2023 02:53

good spot dunBle with a 3 night trip sleeping arrangements would really be a concern

this is not an effective way to build girls confidence

WhereIsTheEmpowerment · 03/05/2023 11:23

Thank you for that @Hagosaurus

i didn't even think of the implications of the contact sports. Very valid point.

OP posts:
IWilloBeACervix · 03/05/2023 13:40

This is where the whole ‘inclusive language’ thing gets really messy.

I’ve had an initiative through work that is also open to everyone, but they clearly can’t mean that as it is very targeted at women.

This seems like a similar case. They’re trying not to disinvite girls that don’t identify as girls, but in doing so open the door to boys joining in.

My work thing has female all over the description. I guess they don’t realise that would be consider exclusionary.

I have wondered what they would do should a man sign up. They’ve backed themselves into a corner with not being clear what they mean. Maybe that is an angle you could take. They need to be much more clear in their description that they mean girls, i.e. they could say girls and, for those that believe in gender, anyone ‘AFAB’. Though of course that might still have a few boys trying to apply.

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