Online troll contacted police as he disagreed with femle MP's campaign against misogyny and said her children should be taken into care

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The probe was launched after a man complained to Leicestershire Police that Stella Creasy's children should be taken into care.

The Labour MP told Today on BBC Radio 4 he made the complaint as he disagreed with her campaign against misogyny.

Waltham Forest Council decided no action was needed against her.

The Walthamstow MP told the Today programme the man, from Leicester, had initially emailed her office angry about the work she was doing to tackle violence against women.

She ignored them as she gets "a lot of emails like that, lots of MPs do and you think people are entitled to their opinion".

She then received a call from social services informing her they had held a safeguarding investigation over an allegation her children were at "direct risk".

They then told her they thought she was the person who may be at risk "because of the way in which this person is targeting me", she said, adding social services wanted to know how to raise concerns about her safety with the parliamentary policing system.

Stella Creasy: MP left humiliated after online troll contacted police - BBC News

The MRAs are taking lessons from TRAs on how to treat any woman in the public eye

Women! Know your place!! (Where we tell you it is...)
Or you shall be reported and re educated.
#underhiseye.

#BlessedDay

Although you could say he illustrates why misogyny should be a hate crime, because at the very least using these tactics is a complete waste of police (and social services time).

I never could quite make out what non hate hate crimes were, but reckon a record should be kept of men who attempt to bully women in this way.

Surely it’s just plain old stalking.

Helpful for a woman MP to have direct personal experience of the way male supremacists like to weaponise the police and use women's children in attempts to control them. It's the new scold's bridle.

Her family will remain in the register as possibly at risk , they can't remove the marker

The man won't get a ticking off as he is entitled to his opinion

She did add in that interview that she was very concerned about how the police in her constituency treat women in general.

I do feel very sorry for what has happened to her but couldn’t help feeling it is ironic that she has personally shut down any women who disagrees with her views that TWAW and hope she is now willing to listen to women she has previously tried to silence.

This man dislikes Creasy's work around VAWG (what does she do about that, BTW? I have no idea. Last thing I heard she was OK with teen school boys in the showers with girls). That tells us way more about him than he probably thinks.

But what a world we're in - anyone can make a complaint about anyone else and it stays on file against you for ever. However unfounded it may be, whatever the lack of evidence.

This is the same as the Kellie-Jay police interview, isn't it. Some random calls the police with a daft allegation, and the police/whoever follow it up as if it were a real crime.

Why is discretion not being used? I asked our Felix about this, and he just said that "all allegations have to be followed up".

Who has ordered the police/social services to leave their brains at the door??

Yes.

I am sorry for what has happened to her. It must be horrible to have false accusations made about you, especially about your family.

And yet women have on record from LWS, with evidence shown in one case, of two allegations made to police that were shrugged off on the spot.

It largely depends on who is making the allegation. And who gets their collar felt.

The police seem willing to go to an enormous amount of trouble to not respond to anyone anywhere near the TQ+ label (including having an umbrella hooked over their face in Hyde Park on Sunday which looked highly like assaulting a police officer to me) but only too happy to show how they'll jump all over women on TQ+ command.

The useful thing for Creasey is that Social Services WILL have that call on record that kids and mum are vulnerable from raving bloody lunatics, and that attempts have been made to weaponise social services to abuse her. Which will save SS a lot of time next time such a report comes in.

The useful thing for Creasey is that Social Services WILL have that call on record that kids and mum are vulnerable from raving bloody lunatics, and that attempts have been made to weaponise social services to abuse her. Which will save SS a lot of time next time such a report comes in.

Yes.

I did think it was a bit off that she described feeling 'humiliated' by being investigated. Investigate no case to answer job done. That's how it should be surely, rather than assume that middle-class children are not at risk, and that social services investigation is something to be done to others.

Darn this crossing out mode! Oops.

I do wonder if a woman rang Social Services to state that she thought a male politician's children were in imminent danger of harm, whether that too would be taken as seriously as the malicious complaint against Creasy? And whether the malicious complainant would be treated as generously by the police.

In the case of abusive/malicious reports the records are a means of protecting the family. Yes. And what an abuser daft enough to think 'I'll report her and they'll take her kids away' has no idea of, is that if the following assessment did raise cause for concern it would result in support to the family.

It's nearly bloody impossible to get children in repeated, serious, evidenced danger out of a family and placed: SS aren't stupid and their job is to help families cope safely. Much of the time they do a bloody good job on the lousy resources they have. Despite the wasted time dealing with some idiot using them to try and punish a woman for opening her uppity mouth when they could have been helping the many families in actual need of them.

But why are the police even following up on stupid & clearly malicious complaints by randoms on the internet?
You'd think that a few basic questions would sort this out. Like, are you making this complaint on the basis of a tweet/ YouTube?
Of course celebrities should not be above investigation, but they are uniquely vulnerable to these malicious complaints

Have the police learnt nothing from the invented celebrity sex abuse scandal, where it was proved that the whole thing was an invention of a fantasist. And millions were spent on the investigation. (I can't remember the names, can somebody help me out here?)

I've just answered my own question - Carl Beech & the invented VIP sex ring!

She then received a call from social services informing her they had held a safeguarding investigation over an allegation her children were at "direct risk".

They then told her they thought she was the person who may be at risk "because of the way in which this person is targeting me", she said, adding social services wanted to know how to raise concerns about her safety with the parliamentary policing system.

I thought this should social services in a good light, and would hope that even if the false accusation had been against someone who isn't in the headlines that they would have behaved the same.

As to feeling humiliated, I suspect for some mothers the idea of even being investigated is a shock. She said humiliated but I suspect many would be really, really angry, but wary about sounding off.

All these procedures and processes that were probably started with the best of intentions just seem to be able to be used by men, whether TRAs or MRAs. And too often women suspect they have a lesser status and the huge stress that causes of being investigated, being on file.