Joanna Cherry banned from The Stand

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Joanna Cherry banned

The Stand is owned / partly owned by Tommy Sheppard who is an SNP MP.

An event featuring a prominent MP who has been outspoken in the bitter debate about trans rights has been cancelled by the Edinburgh Fringe’s biggest comedy club.

Joanna Cherry was due to take part in an “In conversation with . . . ” discussion at The Stand’s New Town Theatre during the summer.

But she has been “no platformed” after staff at the venue, including management and box office personnel, said they would not be comfortable working at the show.

Covered by the BBC, fairly decently for a change and joining the dots to the (second) cancellation of Adult Human Female at the University of Edinburgh: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65451979

'"Because a small number of people don't like my feminist and lesbian activism, I'm being prevented from talking about all of those things in my home city where I'm an elected politician.
"I think it says something's gone very wrong in Scotland's civic space.
"Small groups of activists are now dictating who can speak and what can be discussed."'

😩

A small group of self appointed morality police can silence an MP who was elected by thousands of people.

Yes , something is horribly wrong indeed. If this continues you are no longer living in a representative democracy.

How the fuck do they manage to survive the Festival? Are they purity testing all acts/performers at all venues before deciding where they may deign to work?

And Guardian has done a straight report too:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/02/snp-mp-joanna-cherry-says-she-has-been-cancelled-over-gender-views

Although I have to admit to a certain amount of schadenfreude, given the reaction of Cherry and her fellow separatists to the 55% who voted against separation. She and them are also very keen on only paying attention to opinions with which they agree.

Her feeble , and in my view legally incorrect response to Rishi Sunak's section 35 application didn't warm me to her either.

Some of them don't even know why they're opposed to her.

https://twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1653085438532263937?cxt=HHwWgoCxsdWc-PAtAAAA

''She's a hate preacher!"

"Can you show us some examples?"

"Well she's been de-platformed, so she must be a hate preacher!"

It's ridiculous that idiots like this can convince service providers who should know better to unlawfully discriminate against women 🤦

It was similar with Julie Bindel and Nottingham council. The protesters didn't even know who they were protesting, they thought she was Julie Burchill! Then there's the masked thugs that turn up to protest women being allowed to speak in public, they don't know why they're there either. When asked, they seem incapable of stringing a coherent sentence together.

Sad little sheeple.

Well that cuts both ways no doubt. For every section 35 there's a Poll Tax or a Brexit ?

We've had to own our mistakes here in Ireland - and god knows we've made plenty. But in general it is preferable. I mean we have to sort out our Self ID mess. It's just that , in the great scheme of things , it wouldn't be worth leaving the EU and subjecting ourselves to endless Tory misrule in order to accomplish this.

''She's a hate preacher!"

"Can you show us some examples?"

"Well she's been de-platformed, so she must be a hate preacher!"

Farkin H. Burn the witch.

Unite Hospitality union tweets in support of The Stand's discriminatory stance:

'We are pleased that@StandComedyClub
have listened to the legitimate and serious concerns of our members, their workers and acted accordingly.'

https://twitter.com/FairHospitality/status/1653138816096411666

https://twitter.com/Gurdur/status/1653316539792146434

I don't know much about union laws, but:

'Oh look, what a shame it would be if this was the cause of legal action,@FairHospitality, supporting perhaps illegal unballoted strike action?, in discrimination against what I think may be a protected category? Oh dear, and archived, too (https://archive.ph/1l6M1)'

And I see the Red Guard are onto hassling other venues where women are daring to meet to listen to poetry.

'Dear@Blackfriars_Bar there is a show going on next month in your basement that is showcasing 3 performers that are anti trans with some being more extreme than the other. Why is this being allowed in your venue? StandComedyClub protects the trans community. Do you?'

https://twitter.com/cabaretagainst/status/1653252420917501953

This has to fucking stop. Enough, now.

Quite. Some of these young people - do they ever wonder why the Fringe is called the Fringe? Clue: nothing to do with hairstyles.

Ha ...not going too well for the Cabaret Against Reality muppet on Twitter @ArabeIIaScott .

Is Glasgae a bit less woke than Embra? I've only ever been to the east coast.

I would say so, yes. Edinburgh is much richer and generally full of more privileged people (Not All Edinburghers are Like That of course), so it seems to attract more of this kind of daft privileged pish.

Although it seems the lad in charge of the Hate Cabaret is actually from Glasgow. Mea Culpa.

https://www.outsavvy.com/event/8947/tease-with-tom-harlow

Oh look! Yet another exhibitionist man silencing women who might stop him in his enjoyment of his exhibitionism. Quelle surprise.

Agree, but this is very useful for pointing out which events may be of real interest to some Festival-goers. I’d love to see these “wenches”.

Own goal, really…

I don't understand your comment about "cutting both ways". Cherry's response to Rishi Sunak's use of section 35 was bizarre. She either didn't understand the legal issues, or she did but she's so hidebound to her own cult and ideology she couldn't admit Sunak was correct. The responses from Kate Forbes and Ash Regan were far more measured.

Whilst The Stand has behaved unethically and probably illegally I'm struggling to care about Cherry as an individual, although it's a very undesirable precedent if left unchallenged. I do wonder what the reaction would be if the unplatformed person had been say Nigel Farage or Sally Philips?

I suspect that Glasgow might be as more full of this shite than edinburgh. Glasgow likes to imagine itself as cooler, more modern, more anti-establishment (than everywhere, but especially stuffy old edinburgh) and such likes.

So I imagine this kind of bullshit activism
is at least as rife. But probably doesn’t manifest around university societies and such like to the same extent.

(I say all of this as a Glaswegian).

It seems JC was interviewed by BBC Scotland which lead to a follow up interview with IW the following afternoon. The interviewer did a good job trying to get IW to answer his reasonable questions but the expression 'trying to pin jelly to a wall' never felt more apt as IW drew in American GC's, Jew & race and other false equivalents. It is so true that they really have no answers. I'm not sure who the interviewer is but you can hear the his frustration, I think he did a really good job.

SNP intellectually dead
Cowardly colleagues won't back me

Why has it taken her so long to see that the SNP is intellectually dead?

Why is she still hanging on in there?

The event the cabaret person was picking on has Elaine Millar. She used to be on here, she’s a pelvic floor physio and has had trouble with our professional bodies before she showed a merkin. She did comedy too and was harrassed last fringe because TRAs didn’t like her show about pelvic floors.

i guess she is still arguing aboht this. I would have given up, but there are lots of brave women in Scotland.

Legally she’s protected to hold her belief (belief is a bit annoying as it’s facts but seems that’s how it’s phrased)

So could sue for discrimination?

Shelagh Fogarty on LBC has just covered this in an excellent interview with Michael Foran (prof of public law). Taking calls now and a brilliant woman (didn't catch her name) speaking now
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/