Gender ideology terrorists. GITs.

[Tabitha1960]

(I'm a bit of a newbie and this is the longest post I have ever written on this subject so be gentle with me!)

I spotted a new acronym on Twitter for the mob that currently always turns up whenever women meet. It's GITs and it made me laugh at first but then I thought again, and eventually realised it's actually a very good new description for what are generally called TRA.

The reasons I think this are three fold.

Firstly, "trans rights activists" isn't a great description. They have evolved recently from activists to terrorists - i.e. using physical intimidation, the threat of violence, and sometimes actual physical violence, to frighten us until we give way. That is literally the definition of "terrorists", NOT "activists".

Secondly I think it's a good idea to remove the phrase "trans rights" from the way we describe the mob. Trans people have exactly the same rights as everyone else, so the mob are not asking for "trans rights". They are demanding special privileges, including the privilege of preventing anyone they disagree with from meeting or speaking. That isn't "rights" so we should not call them T.R.A.

Thirdly, I now believe it is a good idea to remove the word "trans" from our name for the mob. Many, maybe most people who transitioned over the last 50 or so years do not approve of the mob's paramilitary clothing, their masks, nor their violent, fascist tactics. So let's stop using their acronym TRA as it includes the word "trans" and thereby tacitly blames all trans identified people, even the most reasonable ones.

Also, many of the people that the mob make demands on behalf of are not "transing" from or to anything. Most don't get a GRC. Most don't have surgery. Many are nonbinary, or furries, or genderfluid, neutrois, and all that. So the word "trans" in TRA is inaccurate to describe many of the people the mob are screeching for.

For all these reasons, I think this new term "gender ideology terrorists" is far more accurate than TRA.

What do YOU think? Is TRA a better term than GIT? If so please give your reasoning.

Thank you.

GIT has the schoolboy snigger aspect to the acronym.

But if we lose TRA we can no longer accuse them of having a Trantrum. Or call them the Traliban.

Hard call but I'll stick with TRA

I've thought for a long time that the behaviour of numerous trans activists is similar to terrorism in many ways. Threats, abuse, intimidation, doxing, trying to get people fired, turning children against their parents, and yes, wearing military garb and masks while stopping women from meeting and talking.
Anti democratic, homophobic and anti women all rolled into one.

I like it, if it becomes more widely used I might adopt it too.

It’s terrific.
And I could be an AGIT

They are terrorists, and I'm all for putting the word into the acronym.

But I think these cutesy acronyms tend to get ignored as they're not treated seriously, but just as a bit of a dig.

TRA echoes MRA, which is accurate.

I do like GIT, think it is a good descriptor but the giggle factor will make it hard to take seriously, to me. I am happy to use it on forums like this though!
I fully agree with your reasoning around the TRA acronym, it really isn't accurate as you say.
Maybe we need a brainstorming session to come up with suggestions for a more accurate acronym than TRA?
Thanks for the thread OP!

I like the term gender extremists. It doesn't resort to their tactics and it sums it up nicely, I think.

It's tough because on a personal level I like that I could call them gits!

But because the silencing of women has become very much an us or them between women's and trans rights we cannot afford to let the fact that this is all about the fact that we are losing our rights to appease a small group of trans rights activists who hold sway get lost.

I'm happy to call them both. Gits in less formal surroundings and TRAs when I need people to know I'm talking about a particular group of activists..

Trying to change the already well known word for something is where this all started.

We are stuck with TRA and TERF until this is over!

But I will probably refer to them as gits, more than i usually do, at home!

While I think GITs is a very apt description, and you’re right that some of these people are furries etc and not even trans…. I fear that by having what is essentially a rude, insulting word, we are stooping to the level of that politician in New Zealand who called Terfs ‘turds’. We need to take the moral high ground as we’re already seen as the bad guys.

Maybe GITA - Gender Ideology Terror Activists? Or EGI - Extreme Gender Ideologists? GIE - Gender Ideology Extremists? I don’t know! Would love to see more trans people stand up and say TRAs don’t speak for them, though.

It reminds me of some TRAs on reddit trying to get the worf terf changed to fart... forgot the words making it up but it just came across as pathetic and puerile.

Please could someone explain the difference between TRAs and MRAs because I have always thought that they are synonyms?

Trans
Men's

Rights
Activists

Same group of individuals in the main!

So I was right. Same dog, different name.

Yep!

Two sides of the same coin.

yep.

I prefer to avoid using labels at all, when it's possible to do so, tbh.

But I think these cutesy acronyms tend to get ignored as they're not treated seriously, but just as a bit of a dig.

This. We win with constructive arguments. They've proven that name calling loses in the long run.

I think

GC = gender critical
GS = gender supremacist

This makes it clear the fundamental difference between the two groups is about the significance of gender in society and not specifically trans people.

Trans people come into this only to the degree that taking the position that TWAW and TMAM is only possible if one redefines the historic words for sex to mean gender, thereby removing the possibly of sex from social and political discourse and effecting the practical imposition of gender identity above sex in all matters by a sleight of language rather than open and honest agreement.

There are many other possible ways to accept, support and accept trans, and indeed any gender non-conforming, people without erasing the political and social recognition of sex, and I for one would very much like trans rights activism to put its weight behind those rather than the appropriation of female identity, rights and resources.

Absolutely. Photos from the protests outside Edinburgh university this week were quite chilling. What a bunch of thugs.

I'm sorry but I don't think this is something I could get behind.

I do know that they are abusive and threatening. I do. But.

Are they blowing people up?

Are they torturing people and cutting their bodies into pieces and making it so that their families never get closure?

Are they uncaring as to who they kill?

And I find it really offensive that someone would laugh at the use of the word terrorist.

What about GIZes? Gender identity zealots.

Has the added effect of conveying several
other things when said out loud.

They turn up and GIZ all over your event, for example, is a great description.

They’re not terrorists they’re bullies. Violent protest and intimidation while deeply wrong isn’t the same thing as random destructive attacks designed to demoralise the general population which I think is what we understand by the word terrorist.
I personally would never call anyone a terrorist.