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Bit of a random one… has anybody seen the new trailer and interpreted it as a leave-kids-alone gender critical message?

The one article I found about it saw it in completely the opposite way, as being opposed to anti trans conversion therapy. I’m genuinely confused about how anybody can think hormones + surgery = being your true, natural, pure self, and parents who encourage you not to change anything about yourself and think you are exactly how you are supposed to be = evil.

https://www.houstonpress.com/arts/opinion-guardian-3-trailer-has-queer-and-trans-story-vibes-15163579

You have to be deep into cognitive dissonance to think that the side that wants surgery for kids is not the analogy to the one in the movie with 'blood dripping off the blades' or however he puts it.

Only one side is slicing kids up and it isn't the parents saying 'hang on a minute'.

But it doesn't make any sense because adult trans people apparently don't need surgery to be fully trans and their authentic selves so I don't get why they're so very keen on extreme surgery for kids.

It's just a film. It's fantasy, with a few funny bits and a few really dramatic bits, I doubt it's meant to be anything other than taken a face value.

Like The Matrix......

...... The stuff actually happening in real life us so much worse. One day they will make a film of it - hope they get Chris Pratt to play @glinner.....

You do know who made The Matrix films? 😉

@rabbitwoman be careful how you google if you decide to go down that rabbit hole

A few I know have been pointing out the analogy with trans humanism for a while and the more I see the more I agree.

It's all part of the same idea of messing with the human body, bio hacking (?) etc which is entirely rooted in sci fi and gaming.

The genre exists as a context anyway - I do think it's fed the trans trend. Most trans identified people seem to exist online.

Oh the Matrix is definitely a trans allegory!

The Matrix is not a trans allegory.

The Wachowskis actually said it was though, didn’t they?

Yes, but the one of them who said it did so in a most unconvincing way in an interview after it was suggested to them as a possibility. It was obvious to me it was retrospective fitting of a convenient narrative. It was something like “I guess you could say it was.” Meaning to me it wasn’t at the time, but it’s easy to agree that it was nowadays if trans fans want to see it that way.

If it was a trans allegory at the time, it’s a pretty shit one. How does the plot make sense as a trans allegory?🤔

And by coincidence, here’s an article from the last 24 hours:

Continuing on The Matrix, you confirmed a couple years ago that it was a trans allegory —
No, I didn’t.
You didn’t? Tell me more.
Yeah, so that came from an interview I did for Disclosure. They had a bunch of Matrix questions. And the question they asked me was about Switch, who was originally written as a trans character who was male in the real world and female in the matrix. And they took that response and attached the question that everyone now references that it’s a trans allegory. And so it was slightly out of context, but I don’t sit here and put a stink up about it, because it is a trans allegory in that it was written by two closeted trans women. And so all of the things that are in it are super-duper trans. The idea of transformation, even the whole “My name is Neo, Mr. Anderson —” that idea of claiming identity, it’s undeniable.[continues]…

….When people say, “Oh, it’s a trans allegory,” it’s like, “Yeah… it is, but we weren’t like, Hey, let’s write a trans allegory.” That’s not how it started. We were like, “Hey, let’s write this action film,” and then we got our trans all over it. [laughs]

So the trans part has been added in hindsight, looking back. Which is convenient🤔.

https://www.them.us/story/lilly-wachowski-mentoring-the-matrix-interview

“and then we got our trans all over it”

Gross implications. Very male.

At the time when the original trilogy was made, they had not made the transition

Regarding the matrix, the character Switch in the first film was originally meant to be trans. She'd be female in the real world, and then male in the Matrix (or the other way round, can't remember). The studio nixed the idea so it didn't make it into the final film, but you can still see elements of the idea in the name of the character and her androgyny.

I don't believe the who movie is mean to be a trans analogy, but they were definitely playing around with the idea in some parts of it.

Such a great trans analogy, that it's given the world the term "red pilling", which I'm sure the creators are happy about.

most of the plot of the first one is a rip off of the invisibles but yes that is a thing that happened

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53692435

Despite what's said in that bbc article (and let's face it do we believe anything said in relation to trans identities?) I read somewhere that the matrix was conceived many years before it came out . One of them got into bdsm a few years after the matrix film came out and left their wife for a domninatrix which is when their trans kink started, before later transitioning

The trans allegory came later. It's an early sci fi film about trans humanism, but we weren't using that term then I don't think.

Sorry not didn't see your posts - i thought it had been respun as such in hindsight

Someone GC has written a history of it all somewhere- Glinner maybe?

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/from-the-memory-hole-rolling-stones

Here

The dominatrix had been married to Buck Angel

I happened to watch Matrix Reloaded last night and, of course, the trans movement is like Agent Smith, rapidly spreading, threatening to bring both worlds down. Those Wachowski twins were truly prophetic.

So it started off as a BDSM thing.

You could say the Wachowski brothers' true motivation was sado-masochism, rather than believing they were in the wrong body.

Probably sounds more respectable to claim the latter though.

I’m genuinely confused about how anybody can think hormones + surgery = being your true, natural, pure self, and parents who encourage you not to change anything about yourself

This is unrelated to these films, but I use the Calm app for meditation. Some of the mediations are about being grateful and offer little “life-nuggets”, some of which were very dubious. The most laughable was when they were discussing allowing yourself to be your true self, and the name they held up as a shining example of this was none other than a recently transitioned Canadian actor, who looks near-anorexic and permanently unhappy. I stopped using the daily, inspirational meditations after that and only used the permanently available sleep meditations.

But that was the first time I had come across the counterintuitive idea that those who undergo extensive medical and surgical changes to try to match their body to some unrealistic idea of themselves that they have in their mind, are those who are living their lives in the most authentic way possible.

If you ever needed proof that trans is a sex thing, you only have to look at the history of the Wachowskis.

If you saw the original trilogy then the majority , it could be debated relates to different perspectives of the bdsm culture, it's only with the latest matrix and the creator's perspectives that they have given different perspectives to their film's