Kudos to this Sky TV presenter calling Dylan Mulvaney out

[Bookwanderer]

https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/paul-murray/you-will-never-be-a-woman-megyn-kelly-blows-up-about-dylan-mulvaney/video/e2965ddc48c3f51c8184d13be033fd44

I think this is actually a slightly bigger deal than the headline here makes out, because this Megyn Kelly is quite a high-profile US media person. Longtime former Fox News presenter, one of the moderators of the Republican debates with Trump (who had a real beef with her).

And she seems to have basically gone nuclear on the topic the last few weeks on her own US radio show/podcast. The combination of Dylan Mulaney and Lia Thomas, followed by a long discussion with KJK, seems to have pushed her over the edge.

She just did an hour-and-a-half programme split between Kellie-Jay Keen and the makers of a detransitioner documentary.

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That link above is to a playlist with 3 Posie clips from the programme, followed by the full programme.

I did some transcripts earlier for someone else, so I can post them up here too...

Although I know at least one of them is too strong for Mumsnet moderation! (And Mumsnet does sort of feature in passing).

MK: Can we talk about the pronouns, because I know you don't say 'em. And this has been an ongoing debate - Matt Walsh doesn't believe in saying them, you know, I don't think Ben Shapiro, my pal over at Daily Wire says 'em; I've been saying them, I've been saying them, and I've run into a brick wall when I've gotten to Dylan Mulvaney.

Because I see that Dylan Mulvaney is a faker - just like as clear as the day is long - Dylan Mulvaney wants to be famous, Dylan Mulvaney's out there just completely patronising us, bastardising us, and I refuse. I don't believe Dylan Mulvaney has any sort of disorder. I believe Dylan wants to be a star. So I've run into it now. Why do you not say the pronouns that they choose?

KJK: So, okay. So the pronouns are like a gateway drug, if you like, to accepting this ideology. So you've got, um... There's a really good essay called "Pronouns are Rohypnol"...

KJK: I just think with the pronouns it's almost okay what you want to do personally, but if you're advocating for others, if you have a platform to speak, such as in the media, and you're an incredibly strong and successful woman, like you, then I think it would be great if, um, if you held the the line. Because so many women look up to you that, um, I think I would really love to see you hold that line quite tight.

MK: I've really been wrestling with it lately, I know. I'll have a lot of my viewers and audience say "use the right pronoun", meaning the biological pronoun, and I just never wanted to be disrespectful? But it's gone beyond a matter of compassion or respect at this point.

As I said at the top of the show it's that we're playing for much higher stakes now. Womanhood itself is under threat - our spaces, our wellness, our safety, you know from prisons to locker rooms...

(Think I'll skip the Bronies/furries bit I'd typed up)

[Footage of mob at KJK's Aus/NZ event]

MK: These people attacking you are the same ones telling us "be compassionate, be compassionate", you know, "find your kindness", "what's wrong with you?", if you don't agree with their message. I mean this is one of the reasons why they're so easy to reject, is it not?

KJK: Yeah, absolutely. I mean it feels like sometimes you're being metaphorically beaten to death with a "Be Kind" sign, um, and "We are Peaceful and Loving"as they sort of step on your face.

MK: Supporters of so-called gender-affirming care often proclaim that this approach is the approach. It can reduce emotional distress, it can improve a sense of well-being, it will reduce the risk of suicide in trans-identifying people.

But is any of that true? A new documentary "Affirmation Generation: the Lies of Transgender Medicine" takes on these claims and turns them upside-down with real stories from real people who have been failed by gender-affirming care. Joining us now to discuss...

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MK: The other dynamic is once they start down the road of transition, it's very hard to stop, because the trans community will guilt you into staying with them, and they see you - Cat, I'm sure you know this firsthand - as a turncoat of sorts. It's very strange how it's like leaving a [...], you know, how the first rule of leaving a [...] is the [...] has to turn on the escapee.

Cat: Yeah I think that the trans... I won't say every trans identifying person, but, you know, a lot of them do feel like detransitioners are a threat to them...

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MK: Any thoughts from any of you on why? Why are these countries over in Europe so far ahead of us on reaching sanity on this issue? What is it? Is it just wokism is more ingrained here in America? This, the takeover of Identity as the be-all end-all. Like what, why are we not willing to accept progress on these issues and realise we've made a mistake?

Stephanie Winn: Well for one thing, Megan, all the countries that have reversed their policies have done - as far as I know all of them - have done systematic reviews of the evidence, which is exactly what, as Joey mentioned earlier, Dr Julia Mason has called for and the AAP has suppressed.
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Winn: I sat right next to my friend detransitioner Camille Kiefel who gave her testimony, and I watched these Democrat state representatives who seemed very confident that they were on the Right Side of History just dismissing her experience. And when you've been through something like that it leaves you feeling without a team.

MK: Yeah, yeah, I know, it can get you voting for the 800-pound gorilla Orange Man Bad. Like that's really what... It's like Rick Grinnell came on the show and he said a line which has stayed with me - he's like "These people must be stopped! they can't even tell you what a woman is!". It's like, well, I've never heard somebody boil down the argument for Republicans better than that. But Joey, what is it...

Joey Brite: There's too much money. I can't say this enough. Jennifer Bilek, who's in the film as well, she's an artist turned like accidental investigative journalist...