Newsnight 14 April - the new GIDS - BBC2 at 10:30pm

[ResisterRex]

On R4 earlier (c 08:06), there was a short piece on the fact that some people from the old service are reportedly in particular roles and / training new staff in the new service. Sajid Javid has "expressed concern" about this.

One is reportedly a current senior clinician, favouring an affirmative approach according to the R4 report just earlier. They had a short clip of Dr Bell too. Ended saying its on Newsnight tonight on BBC2 at 10:30.

The fundamental myth that needs to be addressed is that there is a need for GIDS at all.

Precisely. And why the need for the word "development"? That has ALWAYS implied the development of gender-related matters and not an exploratory approach.

Every single child who is being seen by GIDS or on a waiting list for GIDS should be told they are being sent back to their local CAMHS for mental health support. Good psychotherapists from GIDS who aren’t affirmative-driven can be redistributed across these services.

The only bonus I can see is having a decent line of sight into what is going on, and stopping the affirmation adherents from becoming diffuse, with problems then being harder to track and pin down.

Anyone who is determined to drive affirmation needs to find themselves a job doing something else.

Yes

And the story is picked up in The Times along with the quote given to the BBC about "strong governance processes". If anyone can show me a governance process that neuters the effect of organisational culture and hierarchy, I'd love to see it.

Tavistock staff take key roles in new regional gender centres

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6abe8274-dae3-11ed-80bc-e358583c5d62?shareToken=e4b64bd7974ad042ab91b0192848a0b7

It was a great segment. Very well delivered.

After watching it, it struck me that anyone who hasn't fully lifted the lid on all the nuances of this whole topic (the vast majority of the population) probably still thinks that being trans is the same as being gay or lesbian. It certainly doesn't help that it's all covered under the same flag and "community". Therefore many may think that the parents interviewed by Hannah Barnes yesterday were probably bigoted if they didn't want their daughter to receive care. If that's the takeaway, it changes the whole interpretation of having seen it.

My husband and I watched it together and he thinks most people mentally switch off as getting close enough to understand it all is too much effort. I think he may have a point.

I don't think children presenting as trans are the same as gay and lesbian.

Controversial I know, I do think autogynophiles are similar in a way, to bisexuality, they are attracted to themselves so same sex attracted and attracted to themselves as a woman same gender attracted, so I can understand why people think that belong in LGB as gender and sex have been conflated.

I don't think children presenting as trans are the same as gay and lesbian
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Nor do I. But I'm just thinking many casual news watchers may/will do. Most likely only if they are heterosexual. But that's a sizeable population.

There were people here urging caution about the closure of GIDS and predicting that this would happen.

There were already strongly pro-transition people in place in key positions and they were always going to influence the 'new' NHS set-up.

Same people, same agenda, but distributed.

I think the new services will be operating under close scrutiny and hopefully to the Cass recommendations. Be nice to see those soon, it's taking an age.

I have never known the NHS learn it's lessons. The NHS always uses the lessons will be learned, as do all our public services. They then rely on the short memories before ending up in the shit again and then having to learn yet more lessons. They will do back flips and cartwheels to wriggle out of having to make any changes. The NHS are ideologically unsound

When people start winning negliance cases and people start being prosecuted.

Maybe not even then, if this marmalade-dropper of an analysis of the fucked up state of maternity care is anything to go by. It's just business as usual!

Maternity payouts cost NHS twice the price of care itself

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/67a4ffce-daf1-11ed-80bc-e358583c5d62?shareToken=d183a2d38c7ce2f1f1f0ba2d19d08d4e

"The total cost of harm from clinical negligence was £13.6 billion in the 2021-22 reporting year, according to an annual report from NHS Resolution, the arm of the Department of Health and Social Care that handles litigation. Sixty per cent of the cost of harm was for maternity claims, amounting to £8.2 billion for the year. NHS England spends £3 billion annually on maternity and neonatal services, a board paper published in March confirmed.

The cost of harm, which is defined as the current value of the estimated cost of claims expected or received from incidents in the financial year, includes an estimate of the lump sum owed for claims, future periodic payments and legal costs.

“We spend more on the cost of harm, when we could be spending more on prevention,” said James Titcombe, a bereaved father and campaigner at the Baby Lifeline charity.

Analysis by the Times Health Commission, following independent research by the charity Baby Lifeline, found that there were more than 10,000 clinical negligence claims brought against the NHS in 2021-22, with a total value of over £6 billion. Of those claims, 12 per cent were for obstetrics, accounting for 62 per cent of the total value, or £3.74 billion."

Then the conclusion is that they want to harm and induce illness or death then and yet politicians go with the narrative that the sun shines out of the arse of the NHS, why?

As aspiring one government after the other has found, the public will not countenance any criticism of the NHS. It's bizarre AF, IMO. Of course it should be questioned and of course it's liable to culture, faults, failing.

But no party has ever dared make proper reform of it, a central or even peripheral plank of their manifesto. And so it goes.

Doubting Thomas of friends and colleagues, never doubting Thomas of the God complex Dr. The narrative is that it is a miracle if a Dr gets it wrong, the Dr can't be wrong for they are all knowing like a God.

It reminds me of the book written by a cancer survivor who was told positive thinking would keep her alive. She went into detail about topic workplaces too, it's a good read.

www.amazon.co.uk/Smile-Die-Positive-Thinking-America/dp/1783787538/ref=asc_df_1783787538/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=500909826360&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17738974993342312001&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006898&hvtargid=pla-1055800673021&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

Here is a review from Amazon.

In this highly original and hugely entertaining account, Barbara Ehrenreich confronts the cult of positive thinking in America. She examines the impact of positive thinking on religion, medicine, academia and the business community, and exposes the psychological effects of a world which tells us to 'put on a happy face'. From the pink ribbons and platitudes that surround breast cancer sufferers to the blind optimism that led to the recent economic disaster, Ehrenreich pokes holes in conventional wisdom and faux science, and ends with a rallying cry for clarity and courage.

'A fascinating, persuasive and, paradoxically, smile-inducing read'

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JFC just watched this. That bloody flag flying above GOSt was a massive red one.

But, @Roadtrips, Barbara Ehrenreich is totally sold on transgenderism! She's written about babies knowing their true sex, which they demonstrate by pulling apart the poppers on their babygros to form a dress, or by pulling the 'barettes' (what are those - hair slides?) from their hair.

She was also invested in the Satanic Panic stuff years ago.

I'm not inclined to believe anything she says, which is worrying because I do think the Be Positive movement is shite, too