Awful awful interview on R4 World at One just now

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Head of Beaumont Society with all the usual transphobia guff. Interviewer (Sarah Montague?) Was useless. Would it have killed her to mention Isla Bryson? The stats on trans sex offenders? She just let it stand that there was no evidence supporting women being scared of men in single sex spaces. She also used cis. Was hoping there might then be an interview with a feminist, but no, straight onto another topic.

Yes it was a shocker. Where’s that famous bbc balance?

Fallen off balance, broken into pieces.

Just came to post the same! Where’s the BBC balance?

And surprise surprise Dr Hamlin doesn’t understand why women might want spaces without males regardless of their gender identity and goes so far as to say that it can’t be their lives experience of trauma at the hands of males, it must be transphobia.

Reminding us all of the difference between identifying as a woman rather than with women.

And anyone who’d like know about Dr Hamlin’s contributions to women’s rights to date just needs to search for the name on this forum.

BBC should not be using “cis”.

The tide is turning. And as it does, the more preposterous these people sound, elites living in their lofty towers, dismissing the views of the ordinary people.

For a group always banging on about lived experience trumping all, even science, it's amazing how the lived experience of GC women and girls, is absolutely dismissed as fear mongering etc.

Rage-inducing.

Hamlin did sound a total dick though, so that’s hopefully going to be helpful.

The BBC Complaints page is here https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

I shouted at the radio.

I suppose, if nothing else, it showed that there a plenty of trans women interviewees with limited empathy who simply don't 'get' what it is like to be an adult human female (particularly one with caring responsibilities).

Oh okay, Dr Hamlin is male, the 'she' confused me.
What Faffertea said.

Ok, so they dismiss the general right of women and girls to privacy and dignity, they dismiss traumatised women's rights out of hand, they dismiss any safeguarding concerns and the rights of women from orthodox religious groups don't count either?

That is an awful lot of indifference just to meet the desires of an extremely small minority of men.

Listened at work as was interested in the arrest of Nicola Sturgeon's husband, so enraged I submitted a complaint straight away.

Thankfully I had someone here so the radio was on quiet but I heard Montagu say the word Cis several times and that enraged me enough. Glad I didn't hear the rest of it

Desperation is setting in with these unhinged people. Their panic is palpable.
The cognitive dissonance of hearing a head tilting woman ( Lib Dem of course) defend men's rights while the Tory MP (male) defended women's rights was quite disturbing. Nicky Campbell on 5Live this morning.

Balance and the BBC are strangers to one another.
I just feel embarrassed that they bow and scrape and curtsey to a certain flag these days.
Captured is such an appropriate word.

Yes Xabia, it messes with my head that I may have to vote Conservative.

I heard this and was astonished. The news story is about making explicit that sex means biological sex, because of the impact the current practices from the EA have been impacting biological women.

So who do the BBC interview? a trans woman.

I missed a lot of what was said as I was spluttering, and the interviewee was simpering some nonsense.

And then I thought (silly me) well now they will interview someone from one of the groups campaigning around this, or some GC female journalists.

But no. Yet again the BBC thinks women are irrelevant even when the news story is about women.

If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny. It like a running gag in a comedy routine.

Whenever there is an issue important to women the BBC talks to a trans woman.

The BBC’s defence is always that balance can be across its programming and not necessarily within one programme. Rubbish defence really as who listens to every single BBC programme?

I made a point of listen to PM and they didn't even report it as news.

I suspect the rainbow monitoring group at the BBC have stamped their unicorn hooves and said if you dont "balance" this annoncement about support for women's rights by interviewing a trans representative we will make a complaint.

Have just submitted my complaint

Right, so they’ll be able to point out all the programmes where GC women and men have been able to hold court and express their views unchallenged, with the ‘interviewer’ chiming in supportively, with sympathetic language and terminology, yes?

Because there’s loads of those broadcast by the BBC, isn’t there??

Interesting that they’re wheeling out some of the old style, secret lobbying transactivists for the media rounds now that the new shouty transactivists are on video breaking lesbian’s skulls, punching silent men with sandwich boards, wobbling their moobs in women’s faces and shouting f-gg~t at diminutive, elderly gay men.

Helen Belcher was on LBC. How long til S’Whittle and Burns make an appearance?

How about girls then?

Why are you forcing the consent of girls to get changed or use the toilet next to transvestite male strangers?

It's f##ing weird and the 'oh but I'm fine with it' crowd sound weaker and weaker.

I think this is exactly the strategy for the Righteous Media.

It's two prongs: (1) Do not report anything about the skull-breaking, assaulting, kettling, howling mobs, rape threats, etc. (2) Only interview well-behaved articulate senior activists preferably those with a string of titles, and only ask them simpering questions in sympathetic tones.

This will work perfectly for the consumption of the Already Righteous, because they already work really hard to avoid any Bad Media or Naughty Information. So many times I've seen the most pathetic whinging about the wrongness of the media linked, or "it's only a blog" or "OMG the blog asked me for my email address and I couldn't see the link right below the request which would allow me to bypass said request."

It would be a better defence if they did have balance on this issue across their programming. They really don't.