Stella O Malley book, webchat, AMA

[ArabellaScott]

This was on the Other Board so some may miss it:

Stella answering questions about teen mental health and her upcoming book.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/AMA/4777276-ama-with-stella-omalley-author-of-what-your-teen-is-trying-to-tell-you

Any kid given puberty blockers sterilises them, that's the fucking point of them.

Honest to god, I'm so sick of these sick fucks getting all excited about sterile kids. You are sick in the fucking head.

If I remember correctly, Stella’s views on the meaning of lesbian fashion have come up for analysis on the GC Lite/GC Ultra thread.

This is nonsense. For one thing, the vast majority of trans kids are left alone. For many years. Because of the inaccessibility of healthcare for trans people. For another, no kids are sterilised.

And strangely, the ones who are left alone reconcile their identities with their bodies and there wasn’t an epidemic of suicide that has been fixed with puberty blockers.

It’s remarkable the claim that no kids are sterilised. Hundreds to thousands of kids have now been sterilised as a result of this pathway.

I’m disappointed with her “explanation” because she hasn’t taken the time to listen at all to what lesbians were telling her.

I don’t believe for a second that butch lesbians wearing male clothes are doing it for a sexual thrill. It doesn’t remotely compare to AGP or indeed getting turned on by wearing sexy lingerie.

There’s no evidence to support the suggestion that butch lesbians are any more inclined to be sexually turned on by their attire than any other women wearing normal clothing so to select them out and imply they might effectively be female AGPS is pretty tactless at least.

It’s perfectly acceptable for Stella to argue that anyone should be allowed to wear whatever they like in public if she wants. I don’t entirely agree, but to select out a group of women, who are in fact more at risk from transactivism than most other groups, is pretty horrible behaviour, and failing to listen when they object and indeed, doubling down is not good enough. I think it does demonstrate that she is perhaps, on some level, anti-lesbian, even if she’s not more generally homophobic.

I think Stella was misunderstood, has been treated badly by some cynical players, and then to top it off the timing has led to a lot of anger being directed towards her. It's been a slow build up and she's copped too much
https://panoramicgutterview.blogspot.com/2024/02/the-omalley-standard.html

They have a common characteristic: that of being same-sex attracted. Genocide may be the wrong word for the concept of sterilising gay youth en masse, I think the writer meant "eugenics", but you are quibbling over dictionary definitions instead of addressing the substantiative point.

Susie Green's child is known to have been sterilised aged 16, so you are lying.

I don't think that "sexual energy" and "wet minge" are synonyms. Sexual energy makes me think of having the confidence boost from knowing that you look your best to approach the pretty lady who you've fancied for a while.

No, if I meant eugenics I'd have said eugenics.

The UN definition of Genocide is:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

I've bolded the one that I am referring to.

Sterilising gay and lesbian kids, falls under the UN definition of genocide.

Thank you for posting this link, Spannerkist.
The article is very thoughtful, tackles complexities head-on, and stays respectful. I'm not sure yet how much of it I agree with, it will take a couple of careful readings, but I admire the approach and the tone.

I have a degree of respect for SO'M because when the whole world, and notably Ireland, seemed to be turned upside down and inside out by the trans juggernaut, she refused to go along with it and spoke out, resulting in opprobrium and cancellations. The fact that 'one sword at least thy rights shall guard' was very important to my emotional health at the time.

That doesn't mean she's above criticism, but credit where credit is due.

Not in the UK.

Your original post didn’t specify the UK. Are you claiming children aren’t sterilised in the UK? Every male who has been placed on puberty blockers from Tanner stage 2 has been sterilised.

The fact Jackie Green was taken to America to commence hormones (they were continued in the UK) and Thailand for surgery doesn’t prove your claim that children aren’t being sterilised.

That's a very interesting piece to read as someone who isn't GC. O'Malley has certainly been one of the more interesting voices and that article definitely highlights some of my issues with the infantilisation and tokenising of lesbians by certain GC figures.

I think it only counts as genocide if the group is a racial or ethnic group. Whether it's eugenics or genocide, it's still a shitty thing to do to gay men and lesbians.

A British child taken abroad by a British mother. And of course there is GenderGP.

Anti-abortion lobbyists tried to claim that Ireland was abortion-free whilst Irish women boarded planes to English abortion clinics daily. Anyone with sense recognised that Irish abortions were outsourced but were Irish abortions nonetheless.