Telegraph: Stonewall chief criticised for Uganda gay ban remarks

[ResisterRex]

In today's paper. Ends with calls for her to resign from WRN:

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"Nancy Kelley, the chief executive of the charity, lashed out at “anti-gender” and “trans-hostile” groups after the African nation passed a law making it illegal to identify as LGBT. In a tweet yesterday, Ms Kelley shared a video of the Ugandan parliament applauding the move, writing: “The anti-gender movement has been funnelling cash and strategy into countries around the world for decades. This is ‘winning’ for them. This is the world we enable with our complacency. Solidarity to our LGBTQ family in Uganda.”

She added: “Many trans-hostile individuals and actors like to pretend the UK anti-trans moral panic is a distinct phenomenon. It isn’t.”"

Part of the response to these comments:

"Bev Jackson, the co-founder of the charity LGB Alliance which formed in opposition to Stonewall’s gender identity stance, said Ms Kelley’s tweet was “utterly disgusting”. “Trying to equate LGB activists with fanatical and well-funded evangelical homophobes is really the lowest of the low,” she said.

LGB Alliance sponsored Uganda Pride last year and also invited Isaac Mugisha, the chair of the Ugandan Pride movement and the leading opponent of hostile laws in the country, to its London conference. It organised a meeting between him and an LGBT group of Parliamentarians."

The same people that want to ban trans want to ban being gay. From a religious and right wing perspective, there’s no difference. It’s not difficult to understand that this is how they think, and I have no idea why people on this board don’t get it.

Godsake are you not embarrassed with your force teaming?

1. no one wants to ban trans ppl on this board - we simply want trans ppl where it is important to use the facilities of or participate witj members of their natal sex
2. it is TRA who are insist that same sex attraction is phobic and thaf lesbians who won’t accept TW as dating partners are transphobic
3. it is TRA who insist that a man who presents in a feminine way is a woman - Transing away the gay
4. So get to fuck

Isn't the Uganda law about LGB? That's how I read it. Here's what the LGBA have been this:

twitter.com/alliancelgb/status/1414554562267172871?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

twitter.com/alliancelgb/status/1638445559630426113?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Never heard of anti- gender before. What is that meant to be?

yup, the law in Uganda makes homosexuality punishable by death and Nancy Kelley is a loon who should resign

the correct response to this law was not to use it to make a load of made up accusations against unrelated people in the UK. chocolate teapot

The same people that want to ban trans want to ban being gay.

Could you please provide evidence of that assertion?

no one wants to ban trans ppl on this board - we simply want trans ppl where it is important to use the facilities of or participate witj members of their natal sex

Or a third space which they dismiss out of hand.

There may well be some right wing fundamentalist types who'd want to ban both.

But not U.K. feminists, and not the LGB alliance, obviously.

Stonewall, the campaigning charity set up to support the human rights of same-sex attracted people, responds to a country outlawing and severally penalising same-sex attraction by ignoring it? By coming out with a load of waffle about something else entirely?

What is it that Stonewall like to say? That when someone tells you what they are, believe them?

I think it's difficult to understand what on earth you're on about.

Essentially Stonewall are arguing that "there is no LGB with the T", accusing people who fight against any so-called "pro-trans" legislation as helping anti-gay legislation abroad.

Another way of putting it is "the UK should allow male rapists to identify as women to gain access to women's prisons as that will help gay men in Uganda".

Good typo!

We just seem to be surrounded by the end game point of the TQ+ political lobby leaders going completely barmy. Publicly.

Nancy 'sexual racism' Kelley?

Incredible how there's no tragedy too great - from the holocaust to what's happening to gay people in Uganda - that the trans lobby won't appropriate it for their own demands.

Every. single. time.

'She further complained that the ‘highly toxic’ cotton ceiling issue was ‘analogous to issues like sexual racism’.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10225111/Stonewall-brands-lesbians-sexual-racists-raising-concerns-sex-transgender-women.html

Newsflash: Homosexual women say no to being unpaid sex workers to straight men. Stonewall, accuse them of selfishly prioritising their own orgasms and wanting equality of acceptance, when they have a sex based social duty to provide sex to male people whether or not they would want to or enjoy it. And also says sex doesn't exist. (But this sex based duty does.)

World: What the actual fuck are you smoking?

If you look at this map (it hasn’t been updated with the latest from Uganda yet), you can see that Africa, as a continent, isn’t the most tolerant of homosexuality:

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It is absurd for NK to imagine we have an influence on what is going on. Is she really that ethnocentric, self-important and imperious? They have the death penalty in Somalia too.

"The same people that want to ban trans want to ban being gay. From a religious and right wing perspective, there’s no difference. It’s not difficult to understand that this is how they think, and I have no idea why people on this board don’t get it."

Such a tedious pile of shit. The whole "you're all right wing" crap doesn't work anymore.

The Uganda situation is dreadful. We need to give asylum to any lesbian or gay man in Uganda who asks for it.

"The same people that want to ban trans want to ban being gay. From a religious and right wing perspective, there’s no difference. It’s not difficult to understand that this is how they think, and I have no idea why people on this board don’t get it."

Because that's not the case, and either you're in denial about the reality or you know it and are identifying as truth being otherwise.

The TQ+ lobby are currently the loudest and most aggressive and open force for suppressing homosexuality.

ResisterRex told us this morning that LGBA sponsored last year's Pride event in Uganda and invited the chair of Ugandan Pride over to speak at their conference.

Do we know if Stonewall have done anything similar? 🤔

Is she really that ethnocentric, self-important and imperious?

Yes.

MrsOvertonsWindow
*10:57Incredible how there's no tragedy too great - from the holocaust to what's happening to gay people in Uganda - that the trans lobby won't appropriate it for their own demands.
Every. single. time.

This! They really are a repugnant organisation.

Not since 2014, I don't think: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/07/stonewall-hero-year-gay-rights-onziema

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