Wales: Hannah Blythyn online talk re: LGBTQ+ Plan: lesbians thrown out

[Queenofscones]

This evening Hannah Blythyn, a lesbian and Deputy Minister for Social Partnership, hosted an online discussion about the LGBTQ+ Plan — which to no one's surprise is all about the TQ+ and barely mentions lesbians and gay men. After 25 minutes of gender-this and gender-that a woman whom I know to be lesbian submitted a polite typed question asking what the Welsh government had planned in support of lesbians and gay men who are same sex attracted. The question was removed. When she politely asked what had happened to her question she was thrown out of the event. I hear from a third party who has stayed in to take screenshots that other women have been thrown out too.

This is how low Welsh Labour have descended. It's clear discrimination against LGB people. Is there a way of challenging the Welsh government legally? They are treating lesbians and gay men detrimentally.

[Queenofscones]

They've just removed a Muslim woman for asking an awkward question.

A woman from Women's Rights Network has been chucked out for suggesting that it's time the Welsh government consulted women's organisations.

Remind me, who are the fascists?

[justasking111]

https://senedd.wales/people/laura-anne-jones-ms/

Contact this MS she's fighting our corner in Wales

[Queenofscones]

Apparently the meeting is either over or everyone with terven views has been identified and thrown out.

Yes, I'm aware of Laura Anne Jones: sent her a card after she was treated so appallingly by Hannah Blythyn in the Senedd a few weeks ago.

Blythyn can't bear reality. It has to be shut down.

[Queenofscones]

Kate Harris of LGB Alliance unmuted herself to ask a question and as soon as she announced her name and the LGB Alliance she was thrown out of the meeting and not even allowed to put a question!

[Queenofscones]

This is the Welsh Government which boasts it wants to be the most welcoming and tolerant country in Europe for LGBTQ+ people...

[FOJN]

Apologies for not knowing enough about how the Senedd functions but was this an official policy discussion meeting?

Can they just throw people out because they don't like the questions?

[SammyScrounge]

@Queenofscones

This is the Welsh Government which boasts it wants to be the most welcoming and tolerant country in Europe for LGBTQ+ people...

It's the same.method the. SNP used in Scotland. Only transgender women were consulted about gender reform. Real women were told to go away and submit.their concerns in writing. Everything is rigged against real women. The question is how.far up the chain does rigging go.

[Queenofscones]

They launched the LGBTQ+ Plan a few weeks ago and this was an informal on-line meeting to discuss it and big it up — because like the previous LGBTQ+ Plan (which was risible) it's all about the T and job prospects for all the Stonewall allies. It was introduced by a trans person and clearly someone trained by Stonewall was doing the admin.

This wasn't an official policy discussion, no — more a public promotion. But very telling that they couldn't cope with questions such as 'What plans do you have to support detransitioners in Wales?'

[Draigosaurus]

@Queenofscones

This is the Welsh Government which boasts it wants to be the most welcoming and tolerant country in Europe for LGBTQ+ people...

Was it a Welsh Government meeting, a Welsh Labour Party meeting, or a meeting arranged and hosted by another organisation which had invited Hannah Blythyn to speak?

[Rightsraptor]

Great to see democracy alive & kicking in Wales 🙄

[Ourladycheesusedatum]

Has anyone told the Welsh synod they only govern with all yours permission?

Maybe they need reminding. All of them by as many women and men as possible.
I would potentially get a email tree going.
I'm happy to email but I'm not in Wales.
Still signpost me to some email addresses and I'll give it a shot.

[Ourladycheesusedatum]

Senedd not synod soz

[nilsmousehammer]

Then lets have it honestly admitted: LGBTWhatever no longer means 'group of people with homosexuality in common' as most people think.

It now means 'people of any sexuality at all including straight and exceptionally dodgy, who are committed to the TQ+ agenda'. Which is actively anti homosexuality.

The general public need to be told this, because that useful acronym still makes everyone not fully aware of the grot under the carpet think 'but they're gay rights, it's the goodies!'.

And politicians need to be confronted with actively seeking to enforce homophobia and silencing/exclusion of homosexuals and women. Under a false flag.

[Draigosaurus]

@FOJN

Apologies for not knowing enough about how the Senedd functions but was this an official policy discussion meeting?

Can they just throw people out because they don't like the questions?

The difference between the Senedd and the Welsh Government is like the difference between Westminster parliament and the UK Government.

Hannah Blythyn is an elected member of the Senedd, who’s been appointed as a minister in the Welsh Government by the FM Mark Drakeford.

If they were throwing participants out before they had a chance to speak, it sounds like a meeting hosted by an LGBT organisation rather than by Welsh Government.

[Queenofscones]

@Ourladycheesusedatum

Has anyone told the Welsh synod they only govern with all yours permission?

Maybe they need reminding. All of them by as many women and men as possible.
I would potentially get a email tree going.
I'm happy to email but I'm not in Wales.
Still signpost me to some email addresses and I'll give it a shot.

We've had a Labour government for the last 24 years. They have no need to bother with democracy. They take it for granted that they'll be voted in next time round, and the time after. It's really clear how corrupting the certainty of power is. They don't have to be accountable, they can just do what they want. There's no party apart from the Conservatives to vote for. Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems are just as woke.

[Draigosaurus]

@Queenofscones

They launched the LGBTQ+ Plan a few weeks ago and this was an informal on-line meeting to discuss it and big it up — because like the previous LGBTQ+ Plan (which was risible) it's all about the T and job prospects for all the Stonewall allies. It was introduced by a trans person and clearly someone trained by Stonewall was doing the admin.

This wasn't an official policy discussion, no — more a public promotion. But very telling that they couldn't cope with questions such as 'What plans do you have to support detransitioners in Wales?'

Do you have a link to the event publicity you could share?

[Ourladycheesusedatum]

@Queenofscones

We've had a Labour government for the last 24 years. They have no need to bother with democracy. They take it for granted that they'll be voted in next time round, and the time after. It's really clear how corrupting the certainty of power is. They don't have to be accountable, they can just do what they want. There's no party apart from the Conservatives to vote for. Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems are just as woke.

Sorry I really dont know much about Welsh government evidently.

So if your choices are woke or Tory then when Is the next election for you?
Can you start campaigning?
Do you need help in some form from non Welsh people?
What kind of help?

[Queenofscones]

Do you have a link to the event publicity you could share?

No link, I'm afraid. I'd heard there was something going on but was too late to get the link. And it was a Zoom event, so no record of it except for all the screen shots women took.

I heard a bit more about it late last night. The event was run by the Welsh Labour LGBTQ+ network, which is apparently not formally the Labour Party and is apparently not accountable — but it has been extremely influential in the preparation of the LGBTQ+ Plan. So this was pretty much the people behind the LGBTQ+ plan chucking people who asked questions about support for detransitioners and lesbians and questioning the conflict of interest between trans rights and women's rights. Kate Harris was thrown out as soon as she mentioned her name and the LGB Alliance — didn't even get to ask her question! But apparently because this is a Labour network there is no come-back.

Apparently it was all about celebrating and not just tolerating young people and their wishes/ decisions. According to one observer it was a lesson in how to create a narcissistic class of people. Not only will you believe the BS I'm talking but you'll celebrate me for saying it...

[Draigosaurus]

@Queenofscones

Do you have a link to the event publicity you could share?

No link, I'm afraid. I'd heard there was something going on but was too late to get the link. And it was a Zoom event, so no record of it except for all the screen shots women took.

I heard a bit more about it late last night. The event was run by the Welsh Labour LGBTQ+ network, which is apparently not formally the Labour Party and is apparently not accountable — but it has been extremely influential in the preparation of the LGBTQ+ Plan. So this was pretty much the people behind the LGBTQ+ plan chucking people who asked questions about support for detransitioners and lesbians and questioning the conflict of interest between trans rights and women's rights. Kate Harris was thrown out as soon as she mentioned her name and the LGB Alliance — didn't even get to ask her question! But apparently because this is a Labour network there is no come-back.

Apparently it was all about celebrating and not just tolerating young people and their wishes/ decisions. According to one observer it was a lesson in how to create a narcissistic class of people. Not only will you believe the BS I'm talking but you'll celebrate me for saying it...

It makes sense that it was a Labour Party TQ activists event. So the network invited their ex network chair, who’s now a government minister, to speak at a network event - which it was possible for anyone with an interest to attend - to talk about her Welsh Gov action plan.

But anyone who didn’t agree with or asked questions about the government plan got ejected by the Labour party network organisers.

[Queenofscones]

You sum it up far better than me. Yes.

I hear that at a recent formal Labour Party event in north Wales Hannah Blythyn was approached by a lesbian member of the Labour Party who asked another of these pesky questions, like what she was going to do to support lesbians to maintain their women-only events and community, and Blythyn literally ran away — as in picked up her pace, went out into the street and headed for a taxi.

[riskybiznisses]

@Queenofscones running away from the question. Ffs!