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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP lost over 30,000 members - I’d love to know how many of those were women

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JoyousAsOtters · 16/03/2023 19:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64976104

lost 32,000 members since 2019 apparently - I wonder if they collected data by sex? (Rhetorical question, obvs)

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Hoardasurass · 16/03/2023 20:05

53000 since 2019
It's 32000 in the last 18 months

Ramblingnamechanger · 16/03/2023 20:24

Pretty obvious why…but how would they know which are women?

FOJN · 16/03/2023 20:30

From wiki. Not always the most reliable source.

Annual accounts submitted by the party to the Electoral Commission showed the SNP to have over 119,000 members in 2021. By the end of 2021, the party reported that it had 103,884 members. Membership then continued to fall: to 85,000 at the end of 2022, and to 72,186 in March 2023.

Pinesinthedunes · 16/03/2023 20:46

I never told them why I left, my sister did but no reply of course

Hoardasurass · 16/03/2023 21:13

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Hoardasurass · 16/03/2023 21:14

Oops wrong thread🤦‍♀️

BlessedKali · 16/03/2023 22:00

wingsoverscotland.com/the-truth-will-come-out/#more-136306

'^'Curiously, throughout this period the party’s stated income from membership has barely moved at all. Indeed, 2021 was its most lucrative year since 2016.
^

Those figures, and a significant number of other unanswered questions around the SNP’s finances, raise a whole slew of questions which mean that unpopularity may be the least of the party’s concerns in the weeks and months to come.''

Is this alluding to the SNP receiving money from gender lobby?

334bu · 16/03/2023 22:01

My son left and he told them he couldn't support a party which didn't support women's rights.

SoulCaptain · 16/03/2023 22:03

I left when Mhairi Black called women c*ts.
DH left soon after - all due to their transgender agenda.

I sincerely hope it can repair some of the damage caused in the last few years.

JoyousAsOtters · 17/03/2023 00:36

Wow. It’s like the Labour Party. Members leaving in droves - I rejoined just to vote Corbyn out, have left again since. If you’re in Scotland is there time now to rejoin to get the least batshit leader in now or will party rules not allow?

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2013isback · 17/03/2023 00:54

JoyousAsOtters · 17/03/2023 00:36

Wow. It’s like the Labour Party. Members leaving in droves - I rejoined just to vote Corbyn out, have left again since. If you’re in Scotland is there time now to rejoin to get the least batshit leader in now or will party rules not allow?

Only members of record on 15 Feb (the day Sturgeon announced her intention to resign) are eligible to vote in this SNP leadership contest. I'm not sure if that the deadline was made public in time for people to rejoin immediately if they wanted to vote, but technically some people could have got in in time. (There are also some rules about rejoining the party after leaving, but I think they only apply to "public resignations" -e.g, an SNP officeholder quitting and announing it.)

HirplesWithHaggis · 17/03/2023 00:58

BlessedKali · 16/03/2023 22:00

wingsoverscotland.com/the-truth-will-come-out/#more-136306

'^'Curiously, throughout this period the party’s stated income from membership has barely moved at all. Indeed, 2021 was its most lucrative year since 2016.
^

Those figures, and a significant number of other unanswered questions around the SNP’s finances, raise a whole slew of questions which mean that unpopularity may be the least of the party’s concerns in the weeks and months to come.''

Is this alluding to the SNP receiving money from gender lobby?

More likely the missing £600k.

HirplesWithHaggis · 17/03/2023 01:04

2013isback · 17/03/2023 00:54

Only members of record on 15 Feb (the day Sturgeon announced her intention to resign) are eligible to vote in this SNP leadership contest. I'm not sure if that the deadline was made public in time for people to rejoin immediately if they wanted to vote, but technically some people could have got in in time. (There are also some rules about rejoining the party after leaving, but I think they only apply to "public resignations" -e.g, an SNP officeholder quitting and announing it.)

Supposed to be only those who were members when Sturgeon resigned, yes. But some former members have also received ballots, and it was previously mentioned that the polling company Mi Voice had sent out 78,000 of them... to 72k voters... Confused

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 01:28

BlessedKali · 16/03/2023 22:00

wingsoverscotland.com/the-truth-will-come-out/#more-136306

'^'Curiously, throughout this period the party’s stated income from membership has barely moved at all. Indeed, 2021 was its most lucrative year since 2016.
^

Those figures, and a significant number of other unanswered questions around the SNP’s finances, raise a whole slew of questions which mean that unpopularity may be the least of the party’s concerns in the weeks and months to come.''

Is this alluding to the SNP receiving money from gender lobby?

The SNP's finances are a murky mess: archive.ph/jPpBh

Plasmodesmata · 17/03/2023 08:35

article in the Telegraph is suggesting that the gender reforms led to a loss of members - can't read it as paywall but maybe someone else can.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/16/nicola-sturgeons-gender-reforms-blamed-snp-losing-40pc-membership/

Rainbowshit · 17/03/2023 08:50

It appears that they lost 10,000 members in the first three months of 2023. Wonder what happened at the end of 2022...

And wonder how many they were worried about losing when sturgeon did her video plea to gender cultists begging them not to leave? 🤔

RoyalCorgi · 17/03/2023 08:53

Here are the key paras from the Telegraph article:

After weeks of refusing to provide the figure, the SNP said only 72,186 members were eligible to vote in the leadership contest - a drop of more than 50,000 on the 125,000 total the Nationalists boasted of in 2019.

In an astonishing decline, the total is believed to have dropped by more than 10,000 in this year alone as Ms Sturgeon became embroiled in a toxic political scandal over her self-ID gender reforms.

The membership tally also represents a drop of more than 30 per cent (31,698) on the last published count of 103,884 at the end of 2021, barely 14 months ago.

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Yeah, unfortunately for anyone who doesn't want HY as FM, the two groups who will have left are Salmond supporters (to join Alba) and women/men who give a fuck about women.

So I suspect the fall in membership will be excellent news for him. The party has been whittled down to a core of Murrell true believers, who will anoint NS's chosen one.

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 12:27

Plasmodesmata · 17/03/2023 08:35

article in the Telegraph is suggesting that the gender reforms led to a loss of members - can't read it as paywall but maybe someone else can.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/16/nicola-sturgeons-gender-reforms-blamed-snp-losing-40pc-membership/

It's archived here: archive.ph/xg1ua

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