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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

But it is "in schools" - help SSA amplify these terrible failures of safeguarding

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2fallsfromSSA · 15/03/2023 10:45

Over the last week or so, education leaders have denied that inappropriate and often unlawful RSE is being taught in our schools.

This thread makes for very sobering reading and needs to be in front of your MP and the Secretary of State for Education. Parents need to holding leaders to account and asking what the government is going to do about this horrific failure of safeguarding.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1635573520942891008?s=20

Please write to your MP and the Secretary of State for Education and include this thread. Copy in OFSTED and the Children's Commissioner

If you are on twitter please share and tag your MP, Gillian Keegan and the Children's Commissioner. (need the @ symbol before) Rachel_deSouza, GillianKeegan, ofstednews

www.writetothem.com/
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Also, use this thread to talk to you own schools. Find out what is being taught and demand to see the resources. People are finally listening, we need to ensure they now act.

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TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 14:33

dimorphism · 17/03/2023 14:02

And the expecting children to be adult enough to have the confidence to step out when they're in a room with an adult who is responsible for their safety and wellbeing, is in a position of authority and is telling them it's ok to do it? Where everyone else is doing it and they'd have to have super confidence to stand up? Grooming 101.

I hate this idea that children are mini-adults that are confident enough to challenge those in authority over them. That in itself is anti-safeguarding. Children are not mini adults, if they were they'd be living independently and in jobs, not in school.

Indeed, and reportedly the kid that did have the guts to stand up and deny the "73 genders" nonsense being spouted in class in the Isle of Man was asked to leave.

QuietlyLurkingintheCorner · 17/03/2023 15:07

Just listened to this. Tanya was fab! I especially enjoyed her response to Adam Fleming putting her into the 25% of adults opposed to RSE when she'd been really clear from the outset that she (and SSA) support it.

What struck me listening to Sophie talk about content was first how is it possible that she hadn't heard of the dice game before? Does she really have no idea what her competitors are offering to schools? Cos she bloody well should! Then also the disingenuous stuff about not wanting learning content taken out of context (I heard that as 'parents are probably too stupid/bigoted to understand.') I mean, really? If your resources aren't clear enough to sufficiently explain learning outcomes, you need to rethink them, surely?

ResisterRex · 17/03/2023 20:50

Another case where it never happened...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/17/drag-queen-teaches-pupils-conversion-therapy-spectacular-safeguarding/

Drag queen teaches pupils about conversion therapy in ‘spectacular safeguarding fail’

"After the sessions, the DQSH Twitter account posted three photos of the children watching the classes, which were then deleted.
...
DQSH said in a statement: “All appropriate procedures were followed by the school and by Drag Queen Story Hour UK. No photos taken in the school were taken by Aida or by anyone from Drag Queen Story Hour UK.”"
The views and responses from the inspectorate, the school, and the government?

"In 2020, Estyn, the Welsh government’s Ofsted, hailed Lewis School Pengam, founded in 1729, as an example of best practice on LGBT issues in a guide for other schools on “promoting inclusion”."

And

"A spokesman for Caerphilly council, which oversees the school, said: “All appropriate procedures were followed by the school. No concerns have been raised by the school community.”

The Welsh government did not respond to a request for comment. Estyn defended its 2020 guide as “vital to help promote and celebrate LGBT issues”."

TheBiologyStupid · 17/03/2023 21:18

Archived copy of Resister's Telegraph article: archive.ph/qRI9z

ResisterRex · 20/03/2023 20:29

More examples Sad

TES sex education lesson plans include pro-life and polyamory

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c2ac4cc6-c73a-11ed-84e7-e2697ffed9a9?shareToken=fbf9de8e41f39e7a0522f3d656e15386

2fallsfromSSA · 20/03/2023 20:40

Thanks for sharing. We have raised concerns with Tes on many occasions.

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SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:21

ResisterRex · Today 20:29

More examples

Well, that's shocking, but sadly, I'm no longer surprised. What does TES stand for?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/03/2023 22:34

SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:21

ResisterRex · Today 20:29

More examples

Well, that's shocking, but sadly, I'm no longer surprised. What does TES stand for?

It's the Times Educational Supplement. The go to weekly paper for teachers full of jobs and education articles.
Sadly now morphing into predator's dream looking at that article.

SinnerBoy · 20/03/2023 22:35

Ah, thanks - I had a brain fart... I knew that!

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/03/2023 22:55

I think some of you are being unfair to teachers here. Ever since 2017 when Theresa May said boys could be girls, more and more schools have outsourced RSE and I don't blame them.

What we need from the government is clarity wrt single sex spaces and safeguarding for our schools and proper training for those teaching RSE. A Sec of State for Education who knows what a girl is would be useful as well.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/03/2023 23:22

I don't disagree TooBigForMyBoots. This is a complete failure by the government to recognise a dangerous ideology and enable what is evidently the grooming of children to lower their sexual boundaries that has no place being promoted by schools.
But I also condemn the unions, Ofsted, the Dfe and Headteachers who know how important safeguarding is yet who all collectively failed to exercise any curiosity about the explosion in numbers of children believing they were born in the wrong body. Too many of them signed up to controversial lobby groups in sexual politics, many of which are closely aligned with paedophiles and adults displaying sexual fetishes, who ignored the rights of girls and imposed mixed sex toilets, changing rooms and showers on children failing to exercise any due diligence.
They've all failed, and continue to fail children.

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 05:14

SinnerBoy · 15/03/2023 20:12

Didn't you see Veb's thread? The dep head threatened to report her to the Police, for "defamation."

Jesus I missed this! Jfc

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 05:19

Another one saying thank you so much to SSAUK for shining a spotlight.

Someone on twitter has said "So privatisation of education provision has caused your woke nightmare for the proponents of privatisation "

Sorry can't link as phone playing up but they're absolutely right.

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 05:34

WarriorN · Today 05:14

Jesus I missed this! Jfc

Well, these threads are extremely busy at the moment, I keep having to go back, having missed a sentence, or a post.

borntobequiet · 21/03/2023 06:00

Thank you. I complained to the BBC about the evident bias in the AntiSocial programme.

Those TES resources are shocking. (Having said that, many of the resources on the TES site are awful rubbish. I wouldn’t even bother to look there.)

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 11:30

They've always been awful. Any teacher can wack something in and not all teachers are necessarily experts.

eastendmyfreind · 21/03/2023 14:42

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 11:30

They've always been awful. Any teacher can wack something in and not all teachers are necessarily experts.

What strikes me as a parent governor is that while I fundamentally believe teachers have the best intentions, the wave towards inclusivity has prevented people from speaking up where things have gone too far. Teachers need to be more open to the idea that there is more than one view and be respectful of that, particularly in a secular, multicultural society.

For example, my school has been part of a county wide agenda to 'decolonise the curriculum' (their phrase not mine). While a lot of this was needed to make black students feel represented, some of it goes just too far.

In the flurry to make everything inclusive and open, and not hurt anyone's feelings, I think we risk losing the benefits of what we already have in the curriculum and move schools away from teaching 'just the facts' into teaching opinions as facts. So instead of just the birds and the bees, you get how to have anal sex!

The prevailing wind for (in my view) overly "celebrating" and putting minority identities and interests on a pedestal we are ushering in some very extreme concepts and behaviours to kids who it's already been shown are massively vulnerable to sexual assault at school.

I've never been a Tory but advocating for a neutral, back to basics agenda is where I find myself as a result.

WarriorN · 21/03/2023 15:02

Oh yes, I hear you and fully agree.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:26

Thank you OP. This is so very important. No more pretending it isn’t happening.

I have just found out from this thread below that
the BBC itself was teaching gender identity ideology until it was forced to withdraw it!

Malcolm Clark on Twitter: "1./ What are your children really learning about sex and gender? On BBC Politics Live John Nicolson claims Miriam Cates MP was not telling the truth about troubling, unscientific gender ideology being taught in schools; in particular that kids were told there may be 72 genders.👇 t.co/uCEPN4XKS1" / Twitter

twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1638191493486657538

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:32

But apparently, even if the BBC did withdraw their videos, the ideologues who made them are still out and about teaching PSHE in schools.

ScrollingLeaves · 21/03/2023 15:38

Never has it been more important to try to establish some clarity in the law related the the meaning and importance of “sex” as biological, so please if you have not done so have a look here and give it reinforcement:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

ResisterRex · 21/03/2023 18:41

John Nicolson (SNP MP) asked about this on Twitter. He got an answer from a someone saying their 11yo child was taught inappropriate things. His response was to blame the child:

twitter.com/mrjohnnicolson/status/1638105170415427584?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 18:50

ResisterRex · 21/03/2023 18:41

John Nicolson (SNP MP) asked about this on Twitter. He got an answer from a someone saying their 11yo child was taught inappropriate things. His response was to blame the child:

twitter.com/mrjohnnicolson/status/1638105170415427584?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

That man raises so many red flags - a dreadful comment to make to a parent about their child (especially given the subject).

nilsmousehammer · 21/03/2023 19:06

It doesn't add up, does it? The lack of adding up is always stark.

On one hand shouting about love, inclusion, kindness, tolerance, diversity - and in another breath saying the most abhorrent, heartless, cold, intolerant and insensitive things.

But the common and consist factor you can always find, is that the sound bites about love are always about one group of people and their best interests and the appalling views that would do justice to Alf Garnett are always aimed at everybody else, particularly those not rushing to enable the first group.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/03/2023 21:13

A powerful intervention from Transgender Trend that spells out precisely how queer theory based gender identity teaching "has already undermined safeguarding in schools through an equality, diversity & inclusion and anti-bullying route".

Well worth reading:

www.transgendertrend.com/identity-politics-sex-education-schools/

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