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Article: The emptiness of International Women’s Day - Against glass-ceiling feminism

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UtopiaPlanitia · 10/03/2023 23:50

I found this article interesting and lots of points that it makes are reasons why I despair of modern Liberal Feminism as a way of obtaining meaningful change for all women.

thecritic.co.uk/the-emptiness-of-international-womens-day/

‘…it is the feminist equivalent of trickle-down economics. It is the belief that equity for women at the top — the CEOs, the political leaders, the Professor Dames et al — will ultimately lead to justice for women “in the basement” as Bindel would put it: those trapped and brutalised and enslaved….the reality is that for any women who has been trapped due to male violence or sexual abuse, glass-ceiling feminism has no relevance. Since buddying up with an unexpected bedfellow — “intersectional” feminism — it has become downright detrimental to them.

I won’t go into the ideological intricacies of intersectional feminism (otherwise known as “liberal feminism”), but one of its key values is that feminism is for everyone. It has designed itself as such, notably by disassociating womanhood from femaleness.’

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3487642I · 11/03/2023 02:24

Thanks for sharing this, this sums up how I felt on international women's day - yay for careers but we still seem stuck with some of the more serious problems.

MaryThorne · 11/03/2023 10:30

Good article with many points that strike a chord. Thanks for sharing.

everydayaFriday · 11/03/2023 10:41

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DemiColon · 11/03/2023 12:05

I tend to feel this way about most of these awareness days and months. I don't think they are actually very useful or effective. Sometimes I cynically think they mainly exist to provide jobs for certain kinds of university grads.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/03/2023 12:33

Really good article.

WarriorN · 11/03/2023 17:11

Excellent article

ResisterRex · 11/03/2023 17:23

Thanks for posting, this is a great article. I now dread IWD, and I was relieved it was over this year. I'd say this year's plumbed new depths via the inclusion by a certain showboating MP on a particular list. Stateside we also saw males being honoured.

I switched off a work session on senior women's "journeys" and facile "what inspired you" type-questions. There's never a session on those of us who prop up most companies, institutions, organisations and places of work is there?

I preferred IWD when it was ignored. At least those of us for whom it meant something, could have one day of quiet, meaningful reflection. Now we are force teamed into all kinds of ghastly performances by self-serving social/career climbers. I'm sick of it.

nepeta · 11/03/2023 17:56

Yes, the balance in the coverage is wrong. There's a point for highlighting important women's achievements, given that there is still a very widespread belief in the innate inferiority of the female sex, so being taught about women who did great things is good for young girls (Nobel prize winners etc.).

But the real urgency right now should be about the violent treatment of women, starting with Afghanistan and Iran and continuing with sexual violence problems for women everywhere, the increasingly misogynistic porn cultures etc.

IwantToRetire · 11/03/2023 17:56

Okay, this must be the fifth or sixth thread making this point. And will have to add the only people who can say this are people who are not engaged with women's politics but allow the misinformation of the mainstream media to be their source of truth.

Because you and / or the writer aren't aware of how IWD is celebrated and enjoyed by many women, from different cultures, doesn't mean that is the truth.

It is true that a PR company owned by a woman has effectively trade marked the name through the web site she set up to generate income and lazy journalists, and businessess (who are the target of the website) happily buy into that.

But in the meantime, although more overtly political in other countries, across the UK women were using IWD to come together to celebrate their work or plan for future action.

Are you aware that a number of women's marches took place during the past week.

So instead of this lazy journalist just turning out an article that is almost word for word the same as virtually even MSM publications have published, why didn't she choose to help raise the profile of grass roots women's activists?

For all you know just round the corner from you women were meeting up and using IWD to organise and celebrate, but you didn't look.

Maybe next year do a bit of googling and you might be surprised to find that some women dont let the false advertising of the dominant culture dictate what they know about.

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