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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Campaign launched on IWD - End Gender Apartheid - turns out not to be about women

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IwantToRetire · 10/03/2023 00:33

Although the lead statement is full of terrible news about women in Iran and Afghanistan, who suffer this because of their sex, it seems they aren't deemed worthy enought to have a campaign focused on the sex based discrimination and violence they suffer.

To quote:

Targeting based on gender is not limited to women and can include victims who identify as women, girls, men, boys, nonbinary, and LGBTQI+ persons. Gender crimes target persons based on their sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression (e.g. woman/girl, man/boy, or nonbinary), or based on their sex. The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court’s guidance on gender crimes defines gender as “sex characteristics and social constructs and criteria used to define maleness and femaleness, including roles, behaviours, activities and attributes.” These social constructs can vary between societies and can change over time.

And

We believe that both racial and gender discrimination that are systematically adopted by state systems is an act of apartheid. Therefore we define gender apartheid as inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one gender identity group of persons over any other gender identity group of persons and systematically oppressing them.

I am not saying that those who face discrimination and violence because they are gender non conforming or same sex attracted shouldn't be provided with protection, but why aren't women valued enough to have a campaign that recognises violence against women and girls is because of the sex they are born.

How sad that even a campaign that should benefit women treats them as second class victims. ie women are worthy of their own campaign.

endgenderapartheid.today/

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Sazzasez · 11/03/2023 00:51

Hmmm... “gender apartheid” rings a bell.

The Mermaids v LGB Alliance tribunal where someone compared men trying to get into lesbians’ knickers to Black South Africans’ struggle against apartheid.

We have separation on the basis of sex (not gender) for good reasons & few.

nocoolnamesleft · 11/03/2023 00:53

I saw references to gender apartheid on IWD and immediately thought "surely they mean sexual apartheid". No, it seems not. Women, again, count for nothing.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 11/03/2023 01:17

Gender apartheid is what TRA's call women's single sex spaces.

You know, violently segregating women from men with special gender identities.

Won't somebody think of the poor oppressed penis people!!!

nilsmousehammer · 11/03/2023 07:41

Therefore we define gender apartheid as inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one gender identity group of persons over any other gender identity group of persons and systematically oppressing them.

That's Stonewall fucked then. And the SNP.

Gawd what won't they make up next.

IwantToRetire · 11/03/2023 17:17

I think what is so despressing about this is that many high profile women, who have themselves been really brave in speaking out have taken this route.

It seems that they have worded it to be acceptable to the UN (they quote the UN definition of gender) as that is their aim. To get the UN to make this a crime.

And of course makes it much more acceptable to the media as it saves them from having to talk about women (the female sex) being discriminated against because of their sex.

I cant imagine why given their lived experience of facing not just discrimination but violence because of their sex the organisers want to conceal this reality by instead going down the road of western university queer politics subversion, that has led to this erasure of women as a specific (sex) class of people who across the world face "Apartheid" just because they were born that sex.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry.

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OvaHere · 11/03/2023 17:30

Targeting based on gender is not limited to women and can include victims who identify as women, girls, men, boys, nonbinary, and LGBTQI+ persons. Gender crimes target persons based on their sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression (e.g. woman/girl, man/boy, or nonbinary), or based on their sex.

So this is a campaign applicable to every person on the planet? Okay then.

nepeta · 11/03/2023 17:53

This is what happens when you turn 'women' into fluffy abstract feelings so that anybody can choose to be one and anybody can choose to exit the group. In reality, misogyny and sexism won't let you choose your group at all.

So if you erase the female sex you can't liberate it. And this is what is happening in lots of places right now. What's so bizarre about it is that it's not pushed by the openly misogynistic religious groups or organisations or politics, but the so-called progressives. They don't even notice that the group which is erased is probably 99% of those who are affected by the so-called gender apartheid.

nepeta · 11/03/2023 17:59

Therefore we define gender apartheid as inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one gender identity group of persons over any other gender identity group of persons and systematically oppressing them.

This is based on the assumption that all people worship at the church of gender identity ideology, that all people possess a gender identity not based on their sex, and that somehow a male person not identifying as a man suddenly finds themselves utterly powerless. In reality an enby male will be treated with all the same benefits as any male person.

An awful statement, because it erases sex-based apartheid.

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