Isn’t it all just a wind up?

[Mezmer]

Just putting it out there that the majority of trans activism is just people taking the piss , parody or an excuse for Antifa to cause trouble or MRAs to shout women down.

I mean Jeffrey and so many of the TikTok GI ghouls just seem like they want to know how far they can push their characters to see how far society will take it. Just for clicks. Even Dylan will get bored soon and move onto something else surely, once the money dries up.

Point being their motivation isn’t actually to get GI into the mainstream or restructure society but to just be noticed.

I’m sure we can discount 90% of TA activism as fake. I.E just people dicking about.

Would it were so.

What mean Stop?

Mezmer for many years, what we’ve been exposed to had been curated. So if someone said “I saw a tortoise help a struggling bird”, an expert in tortoises would be brought out to say “that person is a fantasist and a liar”. Nowadays, anything can be captured and nothing is curated, so you see the shaky phone-camera with your own eyes and see the the tortoise helping the bird.

I think this is what we are seeing now regarding human behaviour and human nature. No experts to tell us ‘that can never happen’ or filter what we ‘need to know’, so we are finding out just how crazy, gullible, twisted, sinister and perverse people can be.

In the old days, Jefferey would have worked somewhere like snappy snaps, and aside from making customers feel uneasy, very few people would know about him.

I'd agree but Tumblr speak is now in government training, in the NHS, in schools and is frankly terrifying

I think I posted...ooh ages ago, how this was like a Brass Eye sketch that's got out of hand. Because it is insane. But Dylan has met the President. Men are being applauded for winning in women's sports. Rapists are being jailed with vulnerable women. Health care professionals are afraid to say there are only two sexes. The leader of the Labour Party thinks men can be women. Children are being....well bad things are happening to them. And women who say anything are being hounded, in the street, from their jobs and by the Police.

I wish Chris Morris would 'fess up because it's really gone too far.

How do you account, for example, for all the heart-warming stories published everywhere from women's magazines to the BBC about how wonderful it is for children to have parents who agree to "change their sex"?

I believe that the pharmaceutical industry is at the core of all this, while lots of other groups and types of people have found that it also suits their interests.

'Would it were so' = if only that were the case

Basically, it's exactly that way, but if everyone took it deathly seriously.

You're talking Nonce Sense!

Cake I was thinking about Chris Morris recently and Brasseye recently. I reckon he was dodgy, because the whole series was set up at first to make you incredulous about the news and about ‘concerned’ celebrities. It was setting up the idea of a fabricated ‘moral panic’ and how we should not allow ourselves to be duped into going along with them.

The final episode was on paedophiles, I now believe deliberately, to suggest that all the child protection concerns which had been addressed in the recent times were an over-reaction, just moral panic, of gullible idiots. He even tried to introduce he idea of the ‘NOMAP’, by saying that the paedophile “didn’t fancy” that particular boy. It really stood out as ‘not like the other episodes’ and as though they had been building up to it. I feel creeped out when I think about Brasseye and Chris Morris now. WTF was he up to and why?

I didn't much care for Brass Eye, though I also didn't watch much of it. You've reminded me the little bit of one of his shows that I saw shocked me so much I actually contacted BBC2(?) about it. I think it was Steve Coogan as Alan Partridge (or a similar character) commenting on a diver. The diver did a somersault and struck their head on the diving board then went limp and just sank. I remember the same or a similar incident, the diver sinking with blood streaming from his head. I believe he died. I was horrified, we were meant to laugh!? Anyway, I wrote because I wanted to know he was okay. They did get back to me, but said they couldn't comment.

Tldr, not a fan.

God how cold. But sweet of you to check in about the diver.

I feel that some of that humour was really about mocking people with human sensitivity. It had the callous air of cocaine about it.

It would not surprise me to discover that he was a bit of a misanthrope.

Excellent summary.

This is such an excellent post. It explains in simple terms what has been happening as a consequence of the online world replacing the real world in some crucial ways.

That 'curating' was not without obvious problems as governments in many countries have used that power to mislead, silence, and oppress their populations. But when it was combined with freedom of speech and debate in universities it worked, though imperfectly, and it also allowed the process to be improved over time.

Wow, that's one of the more insane theories I've read for a while!

The trouble is that the internet has been great in many ways. I used to go to secondhand bookshops and browse. That was fun, but the chances of finding a particular long out-of-print book I hankered after were vestigial. Now all the booksellers can put their stock online and somebody thousands of miles away can find the listing and buy the book. Similarly, people with very rare medical conditions struggled to find anybody to compare notes with. Now they can have online support groups.

The flipside, of course, is that some of the people who've come together via the internet are not doing each other good, quite the reverse. Plus, the internet is addictive and people spending all their lives online are not getting out into the fresh air and exercising, meeting people face to face, developing real life social skills and judgement, and so on, so they are not leading healthy lives, physically or emotionally.

No idea how we turn this round. The genie is out of the bottle.

It’s not a theory. It’s a remark. I believe Chris Morris is dodgy. That last episode of Brasseye felt off.

It was a moral panic though after pie. There are no more paedophiles now than before. However there are more of them than we thought and many institutions such as c of e and bbc covering them up goes to show there's always been risk and better safeguarding exists now, at least in theory.

It is also having a homogenising effect on culture around the world - so young people are more engaged in US politics and history than their own and there is no ‘authority’ to look towards or unifying experiences.

I am curious to see how it will all iron out and settle.

Slow down slow down, back up a bit. Eh?

What are you talking about? A moral panic after PIE? Please give me a rough time period you are talking about and how this manifested. What happened as a result of this panic?

It's one of the bonkers things about it - the whole thing is so patently absurd, that when there's a parody account taking the piss, it's actually quite hard to tell the difference.

A little digression about paedophilia.

When lots of women patients told Dr Freud they’d been abused by their dads, he assumed they were making it up and it manifestation of an unfulfilled wish to be raped by their dads. Clueless bloke.

During the second wave of feminism, the women’s consciousness-raising sessions made them realise how many women had actually been sexually abused as kids.

In the past, people used to think kids reporting abuse were making it up, but then people started to believe them.

In the 80s research revealed that a large number of kids were abused, averaging about one or two in every classroom- and girls at 5 times the rate of boys.

Huge exposes revealed the prevalence of sexual abuse with the church, children’s homes, Boy Scouts, you bloody name it.

There was a need to wise up and protect kids.

A public will to ‘do something for fuck’s sake’ is not a moral panic.

After measures like the Children’s Act were put in place, people who wanted to interfere with kids found themselves thwarted, and on the surface, safeguarding measures can look a bit extreme. Some men would complain that they couldn’t sit and eat their packed lunch innocently watching the kids playing in the park any more, without people thinking they were a nonce, that kind of thing - it had all gone too far. I do think that is such a high price to pay for protecting kids. So, no. It was not a moral panic.

Chris Morris brought out Brasseye in around 1993-4.

Meanwhile, actual nonces started becoming sex tourists to find easier access to children in countries where there are lax child protection laws.

Don't forget the medium affects the message. I would say, having seen a fair amount of oddbods on Tiktok, that that app and social media in general is a fierce conduit for narcissism. Jeffrey Marsh looks to be like that 'budgie pecking a mirror', and so many of the people posting shitty videos are entranced by their own reflections.

OP to answer your question directly

no it’s not just people dicking about online

it is in our real lives. I first wrote to the local MP nearly 10 years ago. It’s a real life genuine issue.