Labour work out the demographic they need to win

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www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/03/i-want-to-give-mid-life-women-a-voice-labours-anneliese-dodds-on-menopause-careers-and-the-wi?amp;amp;amp

Realisation dawns, but not nearly enough is my thought.

I'm not voting for them, haven't for the past 5 years, might not ever again if the kerp this nonsense up. They no longer have anything to offer women or the working class.

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The next lot of polls will be interesting. All the commentariat are saying what a wizard Rishi is .Because he got May's deal signed 4 years late , basically.

But the media will swing behind him. It might concentrate a few minds in Labour

Yeah, I'm deeply suspicious about all the menopause stuff, despite being menopausal myself. How fucking convenient to label 50-something women as rendered incapable by their hormones, just as they hit the age to be senior at work and generally not give a fuck.

Love that misslucy. So true

Well,the menopause did used to be known as ’The Change’, and TW are going through a change too, so it’s only fair to share. I mean, we bio women have naturally had female hormones for years, so a bit selfish to deny TW a go as well......

“I feel quite at home with the kind of women who are involved in the Women’s Institute,” she says

Will given that the WI thinks women can have penises I'm not sure this sentence is the vote winner she thinks it is.

Interesting thoughts … so it’s clientelism, only they give the TRA what they want and women what they haven’t actually asked for.

My employer is stonewalled to the nines but recently brought in a menopause policy ‘for all genders’. This is what’s on offer. Fuck off, Annelise.

Tories are hated up here too. Just cos Sunak says what you want to hear doesn't
mean people have forgotten the tory lies and will start to trust them again.
Reform party is very popular. Brexit party UKIP mark 2. Now that will be fun for the country if they win a few seats.

Well that's the leadership team, but where I live they are old and Conservative in the main.

I expect Anneliese will have photo ops with the younger sort of member of course, but like with most matters in this area, Labour will be all over the right-on squirrels, and ignore the many dinosaurs that think they are cr*p.

Can you imagine the conversations trying to ensure the right sort of women voters are there for the photo shoot. I bet no one is daft enough to put anything on paper!

A while back I looked at middle aged women in the England and Wales Census 2023.
I used 40 to 54 years old, nearly 6 million women, 10% of the population. Yes I think they have done the sums.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/03/i-want-to-give-mid-life-women-a-voice-labours-anneliese-dodds-on-menopause-careers-and-the-wi

The menopause pound is being recognised with TV advertising aimed at ladies of a certain age.

Cynical me wonders how long before menopause advertising is being promoted to not-women.

I recognise that some women have awful menopauses, just like some have awful periods, and some have awful pregnancies - I suspect that almost every woman falls into at least one of those categories. But most of us manage to live life putting the awfulness in a box and getting on with life.

I feel it's doing women a disservice to focus on the menopause - we deserve our sex-based rights being enforced and proper protection being given to us, not photo-friendly virtue signalling b#ll#cks, especially when Labour can't even tell us what a women is.

Sorry Anneliese. We see through it. Get over it.

Exactly this.

I wonder if someone has finally twigged that today's menopausal women are the ones who voted in Tony Blair. Who may be derided by the party but he's the only one who got Labour into power.
Personally I would have been a dead cert vote for them until this issue. I feel Labour have badly let women down.

Not just middle-aged women, but poorly educated too according to the article - cos there were no women at university in the ‘80’s 🙄
Of course, going to uni then meant learning critical thinking skills, how to develop a robust argument, considering different people’s positions and accepting that other people could question your argument without it being a personal attack. The sort of thing apparently lacking in the Labour Party just now

Sharing this because there are so many killer lines that I cackled all the way through reading it:

Starmer may regret hiring Sue Gray — she’s good at her job.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bb3f7ea4-b9e3-11ed-89e2-a4c715f4739d?shareToken=87a7620a06d4706f36fb8b522a577256

My favourites so far:

He wants her to carry out an investigation to see if there is any evidence of a party left in Labour.

What a CV though. The daughter of a furniture salesman, she will be tasked with trying to sell a shonky wooden cabinet. Her career break spent running a pub in Northern Ireland in no-man’s land between the British Army and the IRA will have been good training for dealing with the tensions between the offices of Starmer and Rayner. Those years making friends with people in the wilderness will come in handy if she has to negotiate a coalition with the Lib Dems.

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I have voted Labour for most of my life, by the way. I can’t while they continue to disrespect women and push self-ID.

Just had the displeasure of hearing Dodds on LBC banging on about women aged 45-65 impacted by the menopause. She SHOULD have been pulled up short by Andrew Castle who should have asked what the Labour definition of 'woman' is.
Will any interviewer have the bollocks to do this in the next few days?

You know, I had never thought about this, I'd just assumed the push was coming from women. If it's not then I have to say, albeit through gritted teeth, that it's quite a clever tactic: Offer us something we hadn't asked for and we all assume other women must have asked for it so we don't question it. Breathtakingly cynical but clever. If only they were also clever enough to work out that men aren't women.

I think you’re right, Floisme. Without intending any disrespect to women seriously impacted by the menopause, one has to wonder where all this sudden interest in the form of policies, media stories, ‘activism’ is coming from. It’s not as if women were not going through the menopause ten years ago.

Banging on about menopause as the No.1 women’s issue has the added benefit of further separating younger from older women, thereby making female-led activism less effective.

The other thing that makes me suspicious is the lack of data, your typical menopause story is some human interest narrative where one woman’s life breaks down (ugly! crazy! alienating friends and family!) because of the menopause and then the solution is a cocktail of drugs.

Just because you’re paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you …

I suspect what has happened is that Labour have realised they've alienated huge number of middle-aged women through gender ideology (because we have the experience to know that every dodgy bloke in Britain will take advantage of self-id legislation and unisex facilities), and they've said: "Shit, how can we get them back?"

Then they've thought: "We've got to give them something."

And, as a poster up thread said, one Labour SpAd in the back of a taxi has gone "The menopause! We'll use the menopause!"

It's so fucking obvious.

They won't get me back.

I can see why people become conservative as they as they age, I want to conserve old fashion ways, like single sex spaces, I realise I am not as liberal and as progressive as I was, as I know it's not good.