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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Surrogacy deal is overturned in first UK case of its kind

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Helleofabore · 28/02/2023 11:23

I caught this recently and thought it was an interesting article to post here in relation to surrogacy and how even altruistic arrangements go badly badly wrong. Particularly in light of how in a New York election, 'fertility equality' was being platformed.

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If you post this link into archive ph it will take you to it.

However, I have included an image too.

"A SURROGACY arrangement has been overturned more than two years after the baby was born in what is thought to be the first UK court ruling of its kind."

"The baby boy was born in September 2020 and taken into the care of the intended parents, a married couple."

"The surrogate mother, who is British and who knew the couple well, agreed to carry out the procedure using her own egg on the understanding that she would have regular contact with the child."

and

"But the arrangement collapsed when the intended parents broke their promise of letting the surrogate mother have contact with the baby as they did not want her involved in the child’s life."

There are a few issues that are highlighted here. Not just how women are exploited for their body's capabilities, but also the issue of 'consent'. This woman only agreed to do this for the couple under one condition. After this couple got their baby, which was this woman's own egg as well so she is the biological mother of this child, they decided that her consent could be ignored now that the 'deed was done'.

If this couple were not prepared to deal with whatever happened to the relationship with this woman to enable them to fulfil their obligations as agreed, they should never have entered this agreement at all.

The other issue that I thought is interesting is this:

"The ruling comes as surrogacy laws in the UK are set to change, and Ms Bazley said the case could influence the reforms. The Law Commission is due to publish a draft Bill within months."

Something to watch out for.

Surrogacy deal is overturned in first UK case of its kind
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ohsuzannah · 01/04/2023 16:59

@CryptoFascistMadameCholet
Brilliant summary!

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 05/04/2023 20:10

I wonder what happened to the case of the mum of the deceased transgirl that was all over the news?

My daughter has a frozen ovary but the NHS service that stored it made it very clear to me that if she didn’t survive her paediatric cancer it would be destroyed - which obvs I am perfectly in agreement with anyway (it’s only there to offer an additional possibility should she want to try it, seeing as she was far too young to know what fertility loss would mean age 6).

catsfleasandbabies · 05/04/2023 21:00

Goah that is crazy. I had not heard of this before. Children as a type of souvenir.

What's going on with all the Daley posts being deleted or reported and investigated at the moment?

Relatedly, really strange politics around comments in the DM when it comes to surrogacy. 9,000 shares and 0 comments? Or 4 comments all wishing the happy couple a bright future with the baby they removed from its mother. Am I paranoid?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 05/04/2023 21:22

How the fuck is the grandbaby going to be registered? No ‘mother’ exists according to the weirdo rules of the pro surrogacy world (and presumably ‘mum’
is two women, an egg donor and a surrogate?) and intended parent is paternal grandma - will dead-dad be recorded as the father and grandma as the mother? Because that will proper fuck with the genealogical Mormon’s heads in a hundred year’s time.

My grandad was a posthumous WW1 baby - it fucked him up a bit, knowing his dad was dead before he was born.
Imagine how fucked up you might be from finding out your biological parent was dead before you were ever conceived and you don’t have a second parent at all? At least
my grandad still had his mum.

And granny is 68 already - by the time this kid is a teen granny will be over 80 (best case scenario) or she’ll be dead and the kid will have neither parents nor granny as a guardian (worst case).

TheBiologyStupid · 05/04/2023 22:58

How the fuck is the grandbaby going to be registered? No ‘mother’ exists according to the weirdo rules of the pro surrogacy world (and presumably ‘mum’ is two women, an egg donor and a surrogate?) and intended parent is paternal grandma - will dead-dad be recorded as the father and grandma as the mother? Because that will proper fuck with the genealogical Mormon’s heads in a hundred year’s time.

Absolutely - it's a shocking mess all round. Presumably the clinic in the US knew all the facts of the case and went ahead anyway - money trumps ethics every time.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/04/2023 23:25

The mother of the female identifying boy whose spermicide was frozen, and who now is demanding to use it to fertilise a donor egg, implant it in some woman’s womb , so that her dead son can realise his wish to be ‘a mother’.

‘I've tried to work out why she died. I can't believe it was anything caused by the hormone blockers as she had been on them for two years without problems.'

Unfortunately this just sums up the resolute denial of logic and reality in the biology benders.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 05/04/2023 23:26

😈 sperm not spermicide ( I think that may have been a Freudian autocorrect.)

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