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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Equality Act - what next?

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ArabellaScott · 27/02/2023 12:37

The petition to look at this seems sadly to have virtually ground to a halt:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

Government have responded with a dismissive:

'providers are already able to restrict the use of spaces/services on the basis of sex and/or gender reassignment where justified. Further clarification is not necessary.'

What next?

We know that providers, while technically able to exclude males, just do not and will not. Nobody seems to agree on or understand the law fully. Legal experts get in huge tangles arguing about it.

The current situation means women are excluded from many women's spaces, there is no provision for single sex services apart from Beira's Place in Scotland, there are still males in women's prisons, and in hospitals.

What do we do if the government and EHRC won't listen? Whatever the law says, this situation is untenable.

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Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 15:18

ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2023 15:11

By the way the new “Update the Equality Act/thread 3 “ did turn up on “Active”.
🎉🥳

We need to keep checking the glitch doesn’t return to the new thread though.

Right off to populate the new thread

IcakethereforeIam · 07/03/2023 15:22

Thank you @ScrollingLeaves

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 15:23

We exist!!

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Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 15:24

7 to go

ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2023 15:37

@ResisterRex 11:11
*Titles?

I was thinking of a previous Sex Matters blog. And surely the intention of the GRA cannot have been to abolish sex based rights*.

Did the government abolish sex-based rights? Win them back!

Did a legal case abolish sex-based rights? Win them back!

I am sorry missed these this morning and have just seen.

As well as these there is also @EndlessTea ’s
Is it illegal to exclude men where women are naked?

The current law isn’t clear.

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 16:07
  1. It's not a palindrome but you can read it upside down and it be right
Equality Act - what next?
EndlessTea · 07/03/2023 16:08

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 16:07

  1. It's not a palindrome but you can read it upside down and it be right

Mixing it up with rotational symmetry!

ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2023 16:15

I have to go out.
What do people think should be a title for a FWR thread to go with EndlessTea’s bullet points.

We have have a good one from EndlessTea T and two from ResisterRex. Maybe anything not used in the title can go into a following list anyway.
(Scroll back up)

The idea of the thread is to try to encourage people who may not know much about the law already to come in for discussion and maybe be persuaded to sign the petition.

ResisterRex · 07/03/2023 17:15

I'm not wedded to mine but I'd change this from:

"Is it illegal to exclude men where women are naked?

The current law isn’t clear."

To:

"Is it illegal to exclude males where women are naked?

The current law isn’t clear."

Or to have both males and females in the second version. Just in case the monitors get their acquired LadyKnickers in a twist

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2023 17:27

EndlessTea · 07/03/2023 16:08

Mixing it up with rotational symmetry!

😍

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Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 18:06

And the number keeps going up. It's already on 86,173 signatures

Equality Act - what next?
Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 19:27

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

We just hit 500 signatures today!

Equality Act - what next?
ArabellaScott · 07/03/2023 19:54

Amazing! 86,250 seems like a good goal for today? Only 9 to go!

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Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 20:25

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2023 19:54

Amazing! 86,250 seems like a good goal for today? Only 9 to go!

Gone past that 86,260 signatures

FriendofJoanne · 07/03/2023 21:34

Wow something is happening! This seems much more positive. Currently at 86, 313

13, 687 needed in 43 days. 319 a day.

oldwomanwhoruns · 07/03/2023 21:48

Julie Bindel shared the petition on twitter today... 🙂

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 21:51

oldwomanwhoruns · 07/03/2023 21:48

Julie Bindel shared the petition on twitter today... 🙂

👇

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ScrollingLeaves · 07/03/2023 21:57

ResisterRex · Today 17:15
I'm not wedded to mine but I'd change this from:

"Is it illegal to exclude men where women are naked?

The current law isn’t clear."

To:

"Is it illegal to exclude males where women are naked?

The current law isn’t clear."

Or to have both males and females in the second version. Just in case the monitors get their acquired LadyKnickers in a twist

Ok, so
“Is it illegal to exclude males where females are naked? “
“The current law isn’t clear.”

Would that be OK with you *@EndlessTea?

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2023 22:33

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 21:51

👇

💪

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Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 22:36

ArabellaScott · 07/03/2023 22:33

💪

Unless something else has happened in the news that we've all missed I think we must have Julie to thank for today!

86,388 signatures
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

Boiledbeetle · 07/03/2023 23:05

86,413 signatures

700 signatures so far today!!

Vebrithien · 07/03/2023 23:12

Pretty awesome 😄

IcakethereforeIam · 07/03/2023 23:46

Harry Miller's bunch We Are Fair Cop have also tweeted it

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Boiledbeetle · 08/03/2023 00:03

86457 new starting.no new day

Yesterday's total collected 744

EndlessTea · 08/03/2023 00:30

Got a palindrome!

Equality Act - what next?