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What does Rachel Cusk have to say about all this then?

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BadSkiingMum · 26/02/2023 21:16

I have just fallen down a Rachel Cusk wormhole on, of all places, the Guardian website...

Feels so refreshingly female-centric, even if you don't agree

I read 'A Life's Work' without really knowing anything about it or Rachel, but it did make me think. Looking back, it was a copy that had been donated to a PTA bric-a-brac stall in one of the most trendy-central areas of London. Rachel's work about motherhood seems to have been...polarizing...to say the least.

But what does she say now, now that the very thing she is most famous for writing about (female experience) is the great unsayable? Does anyone know her views on gender?

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LarissaFeodorovna · 26/02/2023 21:54

Rachel Cusk's main focus of interest is Rachel Cusk, so...

AmandaClare · 26/02/2023 22:31

I love Rachel Cusk. No idea at all about her thoughts on gender but I imagine she would express them without compromise.

Dzogchen · 26/02/2023 22:39

She’s a genius, though these days I find her unenjoyable to reread, she’s very strong on the specificity of female experience, and she’s not one to sit on the fence even when her opinions aren’t popular. Having said that, I know more than one gender-critical novelist who believes, probably correctly, that their careers would be finished and their university posts gone if they were frank about their views, and who dread festival Q and A sessions potentially putting them on the spot.

ZeldaFighter · 26/02/2023 22:40

A clever lady on this board wrote that nothing radicalizes a woman like motherhood. I totally get Rachel's comments in the article- motherhood has brought me emotions in abundance and not all positive. Despite wanting to be a writer, I'm too bloody lazy to do it unfortunately....and in this case, definitely couldn't take the guilt of doing it around the babies!!!

TheBiologyStupid · 27/02/2023 01:07

I've only read Arlington Park, although I remember the fracas when she started using her divorce for writing material.

Review of Arlington Park here, FWIW: www.theguardian.com/books/2006/sep/16/featuresreviews.guardianreview6

TheBiologyStupid · 27/02/2023 01:17

Oops, I meant to add that apparently "she is the mother mums love to hate on Mumsnet" according to this interview from 2014:
www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/24/rachel-cusk-interview-aftermath-outline

I don't recall having seen her say anything on transgender issues or identity politics.

WarriorN · 27/02/2023 06:57

got a violently mixed reception (she is the mother mums love to hate on Mumsnet) because it dared to describe new motherhood's limbo in exhausting, exhaustive detail.

Never heard of her or read her book but I do think that the above may have changed somewhat.

My experience of becoming a mother was partly mumsnet but also a sharing of experiences where airbrushed pretence was chucked in the bin.

RoyalCorgi · 27/02/2023 07:55

I've no idea what her views on the gender issue are. I'd like to think she's one of us (obviously).

I loved A Life's Work, it felt exactly like my experience of motherhood, and it was very funny to boot. I was surprised so many people hated it. Strangely, I haven't gone on to read any of her novels.

Toloveandtowork · 27/02/2023 08:53

Has she written about motherhood once the first years are over? If anyone has any links, I'm very interested.

BadSkiingMum · 27/02/2023 09:41

I can see that she's in a difficult spot if she is gender-critical. She's enough of a name that she would attract huge attention, but I suspect that she doesn't have the insulation of a lot of money (JKR) or the sociability to build a supportive network around her (Maya, Kathleen and others). The articles about her suggest that she revels in being something of a lone wolf, which would leave her very vulnerable to attack. 😕

Not on twitter at any rate.

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AmandaClare · 27/02/2023 10:13

But what does she say now, now that the very thing she is most famous for writing about (female experience) is the great unsayable?

I've been thinking about this. I'm not sure that she actually does hold herself out as writing about female experience generally, but about her own experience (which might be of interest to other people, not only to women or only to mothers). She's quite explicit about this in the introduction to a later edition-

"When I wrote the book, it occurred to me that the subject matter (by which I mean not motherhood, but autobiography generally) was not interesting. I wondered, too, whether the unavoidable verbal mannerisms I brought to it by virtue of being an English middle-class novelist would alienate those readers who might most identify with and profit from its honesty. It is too late now to worry about the first misgiving, but the second troubles me still. Among the many responses, both public and private, I’ve had from male and female readers of A Life’s Work, I can’t help valuing those which make manifest its power of communication across obstacles of gender, age or social class. The man or woman who recognises in the experience of parenthood the experience of the primary disjuncture–with all its wealth of tragedy, comedy and love–between the self and others; the person who can moreover experience a book as an echo, a consolation, a mirror; the person who values the individual discovery over the institutional representation, the vicissitudes of the personal over the dishonesty of the communal: that person, whoever and wherever they are, is the person for whom I wrote this book.

As for the others–the journalists who accused me of being an unfit or unloving mother, the critics who still use my name as a byword for hatred of children, the readers who find honesty akin to blasphemy when the religion is that of motherhood–I can only suggest that they take it a little less seriously. After all, the book is governed by the subject I, not You. Most of these critics were women, and so I take this opportunity to issue a health warning to my own sex. This is not a childcare manual, ladies. In these pages you have to think for yourselves. I am not telling you how to live; nor am I bound to advertise your view of the world. Have ten children, or none; love them to distraction or lock them up; devote your life to their care or abandon them for a lover half your age: it doesn’t matter to me. I didn’t write A Life’s Work because I wanted your approval. I didn’t write it because I was vain either, or lazy, or proud, or malevolent. I didn’t write it because I hated being a mother or hated my child or hated any child. I wrote it because I am a writer, and the experience of ambivalence that characterises the early stages of parenthood seemed to me to be kith and kin of the writer’s fundamental ambivalence towards life; an ambivalence that is obscured by the organised social systems human communities devise, and that the writer or artist is always trying to recover and resolve. For the individual, this desire for recovery and resolution finds its fuel in the memory of childhood, a state the artist perhaps never entirely leaves. In becoming a mother I became, briefly, both child and parent, both individual and other, and it was this rare and fleeting exposure of the psyche that I sought to capture in A Life’s Work."

beastlyslumber · 27/02/2023 10:57

I don't know but I'll bet you'll be disappointed if you find out.

Writers are the worst. Absolute shower of arseholes when it comes to this subject.

WinterTrees · 27/02/2023 11:11

I don't think that's necessarily true, beastlyslumber. However, only those who are amongst the shower of arseholes feel righteously enabled to broadcast it, in publishing's prevailing #bekind climate. The rest just keep quiet for fear of their contracts not being renewed and their marketing budget being quietly reallocated to someone less 'problematic'.

I would imagine Rachel Cusk knows what's what, but has no reason to speak out about it. The only way I can imagine her being a magical thinker on this is if she has a young person in her life who has been swallowed by it. (And the baby who was at the heart of A Life's Work would be the right age for that.)

beastlyslumber · 27/02/2023 12:25

I'm a writer. I'm telling you, the vast majority of writers are deeply into this woke bullshit, and those that aren't are just ignoring it and hoping it goes away.

Obviously there are some who are keeping quiet and a few who have bravely spoken up. But they are by no means the majority.

BadSkiingMum · 27/02/2023 13:15

Wow @AmandaClare that quote…

She’s really not afraid of disapproval! 😁

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PermanentTemporary · 27/02/2023 20:23

I can imagine her being sympathetic to a person trying to create a life with meaning for themselves, particularly if it upset groups of women she doesn't normally find even slightly congenial.

However, I also can't imagine her joining in with 'oh that JKR is an evil transphobe' either, or writing a children's book with a fab nonbinary character and associated trans flag fun merch.

In other words she could upset everyone at once if she chose to.

beastlyslumber · 27/02/2023 20:57

Well I wish she would!

Resister · 27/02/2023 23:17

wellhello @beastlyslumber are you jk Rowling?!
I know a few writers (no wait, I'm jk Rowling!), and they are very brave in certain contexts and then cowards in others. I've no doubt Cusk is the same. They know their audience

beastlyslumber · 28/02/2023 08:37

Hahaha I wish I was JK! No, I'm a nobody :)

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