How to turn children into lifelong medical patients and no, you can't "chestfeed" after top surgery

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Oh that's just illustrated such a good point. Just in terms of the power to confuse with words. If children grow up learning that men can chestfeed (TMAM) they could easily be confused and think it's possible to chestfeed with your breasts removed.

Hard-hitting article. Good. But will the people who need to read it, read it?

Whenever naive and well-meaning people talk about affirming children because it's the Kind thing to do, my response is always "What is kind about promising children something they can never have?"

Saving this article to send to such 'kind' people.

I think its illustrates well bow everything is from a man's superficial view. Breasts are just lumps of flesh which can be chopped off or re-created with implants.

What about the risks. Implants can rupture and leak. Wounds can become infected and tear. And many a surgeon does them badly. Or do not have boundaries in place with regards to whats sensible and doesn't cause issues with mobility or give back pain etc

A double mastectomy is a huge deal. Scar tissue doesn't stretch as well . It restricts movement. I was a bottle feeder but I had a choice . Everyone should have that choice. The existence of alternatives doesn't mean its ok to casually remove that choice. As the article says they arent there to look pretty fir men who see nothing but a nice cleavage. They are there to feed babies and even of you chose formula or choose not to have kids they also form an important role in female sexual pleasure too. Something that won't be the same if you remove them.

A vagina is not just a hole to stick a penis in. You cannot recreat a vagina . And the same with a penis. Its not just a lump of flesh that can be created rolling up arm skin. The functions and feelings can not be created in an OR or a lab.

Who would seriously think/believe that any of this was really possible. Why are people so keen to hand over money to surgeons for these poor replicas of body parts that nature already has perfected. The only people who benefit are the medical personnel involved. What benefit is there to the patients. These surgeries should he seen as self harm . Instead they are encouraged and paid for with go fund mes. By people who will have nothing to do with your repairs. Your long painful recoveries. They won't pay for carers of you are left disabled. Amd they will turn on you should you speak out about making a mistake.

Like much of the medical profession. Just becuase we can doesn't mean we should. I understand levels of detachment are necessary for drs and surgeons. But this detachment from reality and the true function of body parts is too much.

I didn’t think it was a good article from that perspective. Liking transitioning to the yellow brick road would disengage those you want to bring on board so they wouldn’t get as far as reading the more evidential stuff.

You make a good point there. As with everything gender related every thing said or written has to start with some kind of disclaimer which probably loses the attention of the reader/listener.

People need to be able to speak or write more freely and factually. It should be on those who take offence easily or those too fragile to deal with reality , to take personal responsibility for what they read /listen to. Rather than those who are trying to deal on facts, science, reality etc to siften the blow for people who have every intention of twisting the words anyway.

Its exhausting. And it , as you say , costs us time we don't have to engage the reader

I don't know. I'm coming to the conclusion that not only am I'm going to have to have these conversations with my child about Transgender lies but I'm also going to have to start the conversation younger than I am comfortable with in order to protect her from making I'll informed decisions. In Canada we don't have many rights as parents in this department. While I can hope and pray that my daughter was born at the tale end of it all I have no idea for how long Canada will drag their heals on changing this.

The conversion will probably start happening around five or six in an age appropriate way because there are so many trans kids around me.

I think this form of child mutilation needs to be outlawed in the same way that FGM is.

@MeanCanadianLady I started around 6 - 7 years of age with my DD - in a simple and age appropriate way of course.

She told me one day she wanted to be a boy - she was starting to notice the difference between how boys are treated preferentially even that young and that's what prompted that statement. DD is a very simple straightforward person - no pink, no frills, no skirts for her. What we would have once called a Tomboy. She didn't like the "girl" stereotype is all.

I told her that she would always be female, could never change her sex and was amazing just who she was. Didn't need to wear pink etc could do "boy" stuff.

Now 15 and all is good. Definitely realises the truth despite it being all around her at school (UK) Defiantly gender critical. Still wears trousers, mostly black and doesn't do make up etc. still a very straightforward personality type.

Personally I think starting to tell the truth to her that early helped.

I was talking about this with my daughter today. Difficult, she wanted to know why anyone would want to try and change when it’s impossible to change your body that much - we’ve had a lot of conversations about her being stuck with brown eyes when she wants blue like Daddy, and her being shorter than she would like.
I just stressed you can wear what you want, change your name if you like, and people should be judged on how they behave. But men can never become real women but only pretend, and women can’t become men but only pretend.
And that most of the time it’s very easy to tell the difference.

The American pharmaceutical industry is dedicated to creating lifelong patients and will support any endeavour that serves that purpose. This is not a Big Pharma conspiracy - it is simply the profit motive in action without regulation

It occurs in other areas too. I have type II diabetes and if I had been in the USA the recommended course of action would be to go on drugs for the rest of my life. Luckily I do not and have a doctor who believed obesity related conditions could be managed by losing weight. I have done this for five years. I am not showing off, I was lucky and had help. Others are less so and end up on drugs but the point is that they should not be the first port of call. now seen the scramble for weight losing medicine like Ozempic taken by diabetics and celebrities. It sounds fantastic but of you stop taking the drugs the weight goes back on. So a life on drugs - with side effects.

US doctors would rather send kids down the medical path, tell them that they are girl In a boys body or a boy in a girls body than tell them that boys and girls can do anything regardless of their bodies.

I am not some naturapath loon. All treatments needs to be considered but it is absurd to rush to lifetime medication, especially for kids.

Thank you for this. You've summed up so eloquently something I've been unable to express in words for a long time. It's humanity through the male gaze.