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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

VAWG categorised as a national threat for the first time

21 replies

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2023 09:05

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64701020

'...as part of a new strategic policing requirement issued by Home Secretary Suella Braverman.

The change means police forces are required to deal with the issue as on a par with serious and organised crime, terrorism and child sexual abuse.'

Various new measures here:.

  • The most dangerous domestic abusers will be monitored more closely and electronically tagged
  • Up to £8.4m in investment over two years for victim support
  • A new digital tool to help police officers identify likely perpetrators - even those without convictions - will also be developed by the Home Office.
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midgemadgemodge · 20/02/2023 09:18

Share token anyone ?

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 20/02/2023 09:20

Good news. There is a crossover with the other national threat categories anyway - eg the link between DV and terrorism - so it makes sense. Institutionally misogynist police force is kind of unhelpful though.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 20/02/2023 09:21

About fucking time.

Imicola · 20/02/2023 09:29

Sounds good but i always wonder how effective it will be to just tackle actual abusers with zero focus on prevention. Misogyny just seems so ingrained in our society and with ther rise of the red pill brigade, Andrew Tait etc.... are they going to address that? Last i read it seemed to fall through the cracks between domestic abuse and anti terrorism legislation. We need to look at and address the full life cycle of abusers.

NotBadConsidering · 20/02/2023 09:32

A new digital tool to help police officers identify likely perpetrators - even those without convictions

And even those who are police officers?

ClaphamSouth · 20/02/2023 09:34

Sharetoken:

Abusers will go on register in crackdown to protect women.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/25467a72-b0a8-11ed-924a-c49f4cf968d9?shareToken=ea9f1e7b88111e42a6f0175584ce26899_

Codlingmoths · 20/02/2023 09:35

What are they going to do about all the police who strongly believe vawg is right and appropriate?

Clymene · 20/02/2023 09:37

It's a great start but Farah Nazeer is right that the police response needs to be accountable and measured for this to have teeth

nilsmousehammer · 20/02/2023 09:41

Excellent news.

Now can we have some focused training provided to the police, preferably by groups like FPFW who are demonstrably uncaptured, to provide some balance to the years of indoctrination on misogyny which has added to the fundamental and institutional misogyny of the organisation as a whole?

We can do the civil service, LAs and schools at the same time. And teach them how to do equality impact assessments properly instead of the TQ+ lobby way, and put a muzzle on that wretched little dog in the Welsh government that eats everything mentioning equality of access for women.

SwordToFlamethrower · 20/02/2023 09:43

Yes, yes, this is all very nice.

Trouble is they never convict the bastards.

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2023 09:51

Yes, worth looking at all the details and possible blind spots .

WRT police, there is this enquiry, in the wake of Carrick:

www.gov.uk/government/news/angiolini-inquiry-to-investigate-david-carrick

'Alongside the Angiolini Inquiry, the government has commissioned His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary, Fire and Rescue Services to conduct a rapid review of all forces’ response to the inspectorate’s recent report into vetting and counter-corruption. This will make sure Chief Officers are taking the necessary action to remove those who are not fit to serve. The NPCC is asking all forces to conduct a data-washing exercise of their staff against the Police National Database to check for sexual violence and domestic abuse markers on case files.

The Home Secretary has also launched an internal review into police dismissals to make sure the system is effective at removing officers who fall short of the standards expected of them.'

Women's Aid response, from the Times article:

'Farah Nazeer, chief executive at Women’s Aid, said the measures need to go further. “At a time when the police response to violence against women and girls is a public priority, it is positive to see the government step up efforts to co-ordinate action to tackle it.

“These measures, however, need to create the systemic change needed to keep women safe, and fail to hold any agency to account. The regular publication of data on police responses to violence against women and girls, as well as the Home Office monitoring of police compliance to existing standards, such as the Istanbul Convention, would be an important start.”'

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ArabellaScott · 20/02/2023 09:52

What I think is that 'looking for bad apples' is a start, but what is really needed is a full root and branch enquiry into systemic and structural misogyny in the police.

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BellaAmorosa · 20/02/2023 09:58

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 20/02/2023 09:20

Good news. There is a crossover with the other national threat categories anyway - eg the link between DV and terrorism - so it makes sense. Institutionally misogynist police force is kind of unhelpful though.

That's interesting. I would never have thought of that connection.

midgemadgemodge · 20/02/2023 10:05

Thanks Clapham

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BellaAmorosa · 20/02/2023 10:32

@ArabellaScott
I meant the link to FGM. I'm aware of the links between DV and terrorism which Joan Smith has written about.

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2023 10:36

Oh, I see. Where is FGM mentioned, have I missed it?

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BellaAmorosa · 20/02/2023 10:52

ArabellaScott · 20/02/2023 10:36

Oh, I see. Where is FGM mentioned, have I missed it?

No, you haven't. There's something about FGM in another thread and I went in and out without realising it. I thought boredofthismansworld was referring to it as a third factor linked to DV and terrorism.

Tallisker · 20/02/2023 12:18

When are they going to join the dots about allowing men into women's safe spaces? When are they going to realise that putting boy and girl schoolchildren together in the loos is a recipe for disaster and teaching the wrong thing to both boys and girls?

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