Trans woman competes in cricket matches against girls as young as 12

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/02/2023 20:21

The ECB are hopeless! It’s not even as if they have to strike out in their own - several sports bodies have made clear & sensible policies on this. The precedent is there, they need to stop being so rubbish

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:22

FFS. Someone is going to get seriously hurt by this absolute nonsense.

MsSupineLickspittle · 17/02/2023 20:23

There is also deep unease about the situation of a biological male identifying as female sharing toilet facilities at cricket clubhouses with teenage girls. “If I have a 13-year-old girl who needs to change because she has just started her period, she could well be sharing a confined space with a man who, under ECB policy, has decided they are now female,” a source said. “I have real concerns about that.”

I don't understand how any adult is actually playing with children - the article talks about under 13 leagues. I wouldn't want an adult male playing - or changing - with 12 year old boys either.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/02/2023 20:31

After the shambles of Maxine Blyth - performing as a mediocre male player in the same season as winning the women's player of the year - cricket has had plenty of time to see the evident unfairness. Now enabling what sounds like a middle aged male transitioner to intimidate 12 year old girls is completely unacceptable.

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zanahoria · 17/02/2023 20:39

I think it is common for talented young girls to play in adult games.

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zanahoria · 17/02/2023 20:41

" I wouldn't want an adult male playing - or changing - with 12 year old boys either"

The Arsenal men's team played a fifteen year old and he was not even allowed to change with the other players.

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Fenlandia · 17/02/2023 20:47

Just as women's cricket is exploding in popularity...

LakeTiticaca · 17/02/2023 20:49

How on earth is an adult male allowed to play in a children's team? Who actually sanctioned this?

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:55

My reading of it was that talented 12 year olds can play up onto an adult team rather than the male playing in a children's team.

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zanahoria · 17/02/2023 20:55

It will be girls playing in adult women's teams and at least one of them has a transwomen player.

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Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:56

I've played juniors in my adult team many times. PITA though for things like away games and safeguarding.

NotBadConsidering · 17/02/2023 21:21

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2023 20:56

I've played juniors in my adult team many times. PITA though for things like away games and safeguarding.

You could just hand wave away all those silly safeguarding rule couldn’t you? They’re sooo boooring and unnecessary 😴

Oblomov23 · 17/02/2023 21:30

So wrong. So sad.

WarningToTheCurious · 17/02/2023 21:39

the transgender player’s club objected that they would have to ask the cricketer to “hold back”.

Simple solution.

Transgender player plays against players in their own sex class, no “holding back” required (unless it’s not normal for adult males to play full hard ball cricket against pre teen boys).

WickedSerious · 17/02/2023 21:48

Oblomov23 · 17/02/2023 21:30

So wrong. So sad.

So fucking grim.

FrancescaContini · 17/02/2023 21:49

Simply outrageous. When is this going to stop?

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zanahoria · 18/02/2023 10:16

Cricket is getting more popular among girls but it is still a minority sport thus hard to get teams together for all age groups. I can see why they want to accelerate some kids development by putting them in adult women's teams.

There seems to be a culture of flexibility throughout the game as at amateur level it is often hard to get teams together. My nephew plays for a village team, it is a men's team but sometimes women play - usually they are very good players - more skilled than the men on the team albeit less strong - who just want the practice and the men respect them as players who often play at a far higher level in women's teams.

It seems that transwomen are taking advantage of this culture. In contrast to the women who take a bit of risk playing with men, they are putting others at risk.

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Herroyal · 18/02/2023 14:52

My 12 year old son can play on the lower men’s teams now - but it’s under the condition that the parent is there or the kids coach is there. The children don’t change or hang out with the men in anyway. They play and then they usually go home or have a coke in the clubhouse but aren’t left alone with the adult team, who generally have beers etc after matches

Herroyal · 18/02/2023 14:53

The kids aren’t as strong as the adults obvs, but they can often out run them or have way better stamina… specially when it’s the 4rd or 4th team.

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zanahoria · 18/02/2023 19:42

Unless somebody is a brilliant batter or bowler, the vast majority of time will be spent folding. Teams often need to make up numbers and a twelve year old could nip around the field quicker than lot of adults.

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mrshoho · 18/02/2023 20:06

ECB should hurry up with their review. Is it correct that testosterone levels are only tested if playing for the national team? Idiots!

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MsSupineLickspittle · 17/02/2023 20:23

There is also deep unease about the situation of a biological male identifying as female sharing toilet facilities at cricket clubhouses with teenage girls. “If I have a 13-year-old girl who needs to change because she has just started her period, she could well be sharing a confined space with a man who, under ECB policy, has decided they are now female,” a source said. “I have real concerns about that.”

I don't understand how any adult is actually playing with children - the article talks about under 13 leagues. I wouldn't want an adult male playing - or changing - with 12 year old boys either.

Because he's AGP. They get off on this. As a parent there's no way in fresh hell I'd let my daughter a) change with him, and b) play against him. I've been cracked in the head with a cricket ball hit by a man, I was concussed and vomiting in hospital with a fractured skull. Even now I flinch whenever someone hits a ball.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/07/2024 15:15

That's awful @YouJustDoYou

MarieDeGournay · 03/07/2024 15:23

When Alice Capsey was selected to play top-level cricket at the age of 16 [and hit a four off her very first ball at Lords, what a dream start], they had to ask her parents' permission first.

I remember hearing something about her mother having to be on any social media/chat groups as a safeguarding measure for her daughter, and the warning of 'Capsey's Mum!' being issued by the other players if the conversation was straying...

In other words, a high level of safeguarding for a 16 year old young women playing with adult women.

But a 12 year old playing with a man - no problem!