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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India: A Dystopian Future for Children Born to ‘Trans’

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NonnyMouse1337 · 14/02/2023 08:17

Straight couple announce pregnancy - media announce ‘India’s first pregnant transman’

Days after a heterosexual couple posted on Instagram about their soon to be born child, Indian media hasn’t had a moment’s respite from covering it. While India has exceeded China in its population explosion (currently at a whopping 1.4 billion), another baby is probably the most mundane and obvious news. So what’s so uniquely celebratory about this newborn? While the couple smile joyously in their “baby announcement photo shoot,” it is momentarily confusing for a layperson to grasp what the interest is. Of course it is the female who is pregnant, but what you see is a stereotypically male presenting woman with a body subjected to three years of testosterone. The father of the unborn child presents himself in a hackneyed female outlook replete with makeup and traditional clothes usually worn by brides. Considering India’s total hijack by the gender identity industry, no wonder the media outlets are falling over each other to cover this news.

For clarity, the couple will be correctly sexed in this piece; the female to constructed male is called Zahad, while the male to constructed female goes by the name Ziya. Written in Malayalam, an excerpt of Ziya’s post read, “Though I was not a woman by birth or by my body, I had the feminine dream inside me to hear a baby calling me ‘mother’….It has been three years since we are together. Like my dream of becoming a mother, he (Zahad) has a dream of becoming a father and today a life of eight months is moving in his belly with his full consent,” and went on to thank his team of doctors and family. This post has since gone viral; sanctimoniously titled “first pregnant trans man of India” by several media outlets.

What is their story?

With just their social media and latest articles to go by, Zahad, the woman is a 23 year old accountant. She has had a double mastectomy and some of their social media posts with scars and grafted nipples confirm this. 21 year old Zia, the man who has been the only one the media is interested in interviewing (no prize for guessing why) is apparently an actress and a classical dancer. It is incredible how he is not just masquerading as a ‘woman’, but turned to an industry that actively hypersexualises and objectifies women. Perhaps, to his mind, being a hypersexualised object satiates his desire to pass; but he isn’t alone in such pursuits, given a large majority of TiMs also follow this path. While his social media is an assortment of his dance performances, achievements etc, the only posts with Zahad is when they are talking about the baby. Yet, the bio of his Instagram account has the word ‘MOTHER’ in bold to ease any ambiguity around what the core of their relationship is about. While Zia endlessly rambles on to the media about his experience of being a “mother,” his meek partner with an eight month pregnant belly smiles along. As I watched the video, the irony of Zahad’s silence was deafening to me, as was the absolute lack of media interest in her health and wellbeing.

Read the full article and support Vaishnavi Sundar's work:
vaishnavisundar.com/children-born-to-trans/

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Parisj · 14/02/2023 10:02

I haven't seen much discussion of the risks to babies whose mothers have previously / are currently taking testosterone, but I have noticed that there has been concern about toddlers being exposed to testosterone (taken by mums or dads for various medical reasons), as below (growing big, showing signs of puberty) and iirc female babies with a male twin can be affected subtly by the exposure to testosterone in the womb. Do these mums stay off the testosterone while pregnant and then keep well clear of their babies when taking it?
www.elsevier.es/en-revista-endocrinologia-diabetes-nutricion-english-ed--413-articulo-potential-consequences-in-children-testosterone-S2530018017300768

heartbroken22 · 14/02/2023 10:08

I'm so confused I can't even process it. Life isn't supposed to be this hard.

Freddiefan · 14/02/2023 10:12

heartbroken22 · 14/02/2023 10:08

I'm so confused I can't even process it. Life isn't supposed to be this hard.

This.

My very young grandchildren had to stand up in school and say how they identify. My husband tried to make light of it when they told us and flicked his (imaginary) hair and declared himself to be a beautiful, blond model.

It's disgraceful. Allow children their innocence.

BlackForestCake · 14/02/2023 11:54

The poor child is going to be bullied from infancy into calling its father its mother and its mother its father. What hope does a child like that have?

JustWaking · 14/02/2023 20:26

I don't think that what the child calls each of its parents is a particularly big deal.

I would worry more about:
a) media circus - but that hopefully (for the child) won't last too long
b) medical consequences to the baby of high exposure to testosterone (how quickly does it leave the mother's body? Has she stopped taking it during pregnancy?)
c) the complete self-centeredness of the parents. It's all about them, isn't it? Of course, they are hardly the first parents in history to prioritise themselves over their child, but it's still sad for the child.

PonyPatter44 · 14/02/2023 20:29

So basically the person carrying the child is a biological woman who says they are a man, and the person who provided the sperm is a biological man who says they are a woman. What an absolute shitshow. Its like pantomime.

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