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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Excellent article: Sensible people and the law going bonkers

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scratchedbymycat · 10/02/2023 12:17

In Legal Feminist:

www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2023/02/10/sensible-people-and-the-law-going-bonkers/

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/02/2023 12:39

Thank you - that's well worth a read. Depressing number of the Stonewall captured judiciary enjoying the thought of naked and vulnerable women in prison being handed to dodgy men on a plate.

ZeldaFighter · 10/02/2023 13:36

So is someone going to crowfund a class action lawsuit? one on behalf of all the women in Cornton Vale springs to mind!

nilsmousehammer · 10/02/2023 13:48

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/02/2023 12:39

Thank you - that's well worth a read. Depressing number of the Stonewall captured judiciary enjoying the thought of naked and vulnerable women in prison being handed to dodgy men on a plate.

Yes, the enjoyment, the celebration, and other aspects that psychologically are really quite interesting, are getting starker and starker. These are not normal reactions to the thought of people being harmed.

bellinisurge · 10/02/2023 13:52

@ZeldaFighter I'd definitely contribute to that

nilsmousehammer · 10/02/2023 13:57

Excellent, clear article, thank you for sharing.

Kucinghitam · 10/02/2023 14:07

Very informative article.

This quote from the Mark Jones case sums up what Righteous people think of women (the old-fashioned female kind) who don't obediently bow and scrape before the Righteous Ideology:

there will probably always be a small number of prisoners who will choose to make an issue of the matter because they are the sort of women who enjoy conflict.

thedankness · 10/02/2023 20:30

there will probably always be a small number of prisoners who will choose to make an issue of the matter because they are the sort of women who enjoy conflict.

I actually cannot believe that was written in a professional capacity. That is misogyny laid bare.

Forester1 · 10/02/2023 20:46

Thanks for sharing - very interesting

Notaflippinclue · 10/02/2023 21:03

So according to Mark Jones aka Karens expert - the small number of women who object to Mark being in their prison are women who enjoy conflict. Whoever you are mr expert just fuck right off.

nilsmousehammer · 10/02/2023 21:31

It's the misogyny seen so very normalised across all of this.

Women couldn't possibly have any inner lives or real reasons for saying no to men other than being naturally bad and provocative.

Most threads on this board will sooner or later have someone pop up to dissect and try to disparage women's reasons as something that should be objectively (from a male perspective) dissected and interrogated rather than being heard as 'lived experience' and learned from. Interestingly, they're often the voices busy scolding women for doing feminism wrong.

scratchedbymycat · 10/02/2023 23:12

A friend and I were talking this afternoon about how misogyny is so normalised, and it is horrific. Once you've seen it, it is impossible to unsee it. And it is everywhere. I feel so sad and worried for my daughter.

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 10/02/2023 23:34

An excellent article. When you see the points set out so clearly and straightforwardly, it's mind-boggling the mental gymnstics the courts and prison service must be engaging in to avoid seeing it.

PriOn1 · 11/02/2023 06:06

From Lord Falconer’s speech: “What you’re talking about is the law going bonkers” […] “the law is sensible people…courts will be sensible”.

If only he had listened to all the women telling him about problems with self-ID is other countries. I recall reading that the judiciary in Ireland discussed the fact that “Barbie Kardashian” or whatever his real name was, had to be sent to a women’s prison as that was what the law dictated. If the government make bad law, the judiciary will struggle to make it okay, even if that also didn’t depend on the judiciary themselves not being captured…

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