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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Porn culture & transgenderism

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Libelula21 · 08/02/2023 21:08

I posted this on Scotsnet, as it’s based a lot on Scottish porn hub stats, but perhaps it’s better placed here.

I found it horrifying. Surely something needs to be done? But what?

forthvalleyfeminists.com/dr-em-porn-culture-and-transgenderism/

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ScrollingLeaves · 08/02/2023 22:08

Libelula21 · Today 21:08
I posted this on Scotsnet, as it’s based a lot on Scottish porn hub stats, but perhaps it’s better placed here.

I found it horrifying. Surely something needs to be done? But what?

forthvalleyfeminists.com/dr-em-porn-culture-and-transgenderism/
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Horrifying is the word. It is like a nightmare. How can little boys and boys ever be protected from being sucked into this vortex of sickness?

Libelula21 · 08/02/2023 22:30

I know :(
Where can you turn, if it’s as good as normalised?

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DOBARDAN · 08/02/2023 22:37

Depressing isn’t it, where do we go from here…

FOJN · 08/02/2023 22:48

Gail Dines has done a lot of work about the porn industry, it's shocking. She has given lots of interviews lectures which can be found on YouTube if you search her name.

Sheila Jefferys is also worth seeking out, she has talked about the eroticisation of female subjugation for years and written books on the subject. Her most recent book is called Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination

Things are getting significantly worse, the level of violence in porn now should be illegal. Gail Dines talks about how porn makers contract the women in porn to give a disclaimer at some point during the film to explicitly state they are loving their abuse and everything the viewer sees is consensual. The porn makers don't actually give a shit but their investors do.

nepeta · 08/02/2023 23:46

Awful, and now everywhere. A young boy kissing a girl (11 or 12) started to choke her as he had already watched enough porn to learn that females love to be choked and punched and torn apart etc. This problem is so vast that the solution is unlikely to be easy, especially as vast numbers of men (and some women) defend their right to porn to the last breath.

I have read that someone addicted to porn needs stronger and stronger doses, just as addicts do for some other types of drugs, and that those stronger doses are increasing amounts of misogyny, rape, abuse and humiliation of women.

And something like a third of boys now get their sex education from porn, I read recently. Schools, at least, could mount a counter-campaign about what loving sex is.

MishyJDI · 09/02/2023 08:10

Seems a rather simplistic analysis. Trans women and men being objectified by porn is as much a problem for them as it is for others - and the abuse that can follow in their relationships.

Girls wanting to be transmen due to how porn treats women seems a long stretch to make.

Violent porn is indeed an issue for everyone. Guys fantasising over being a woman, or whatever - perhaps a Furry, does not make them a transwoman. I can't say I recognise the transwomen and men I come across in day to day life as sexual deviants. They are just human beings.

Still - yes. Porn remains an issue that needs close attention on the destruction it can have to relationships and abuse.

Thanks for posting!

midgemadgemodge · 09/02/2023 08:16

Girls wanting to be men to get away from sexualisation is totally understandable and something I felt strongly as a child

Sorry that is unreadable for me to

Libelula21 · 09/02/2023 11:16

Yes these are all good points @MishyJDI, thanks. The link between porn and transgenderism is indeed quite strained. It’s the sexual deviants that the media focuses on, and I do worry that it’s such an open door for cover for predators.

But the sheer volume of porn 10 billion views per month, on one site alone, is deeply dismaying. I believe porn beyond mild and occasional levels is corrupting in young people, if not all of us.

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ScrollingLeaves · 09/02/2023 23:58

@Libelula21 · Yesterday 21:08
This evening I saw another thread (on ‘Active’ where someone had started about not knowing what to think about her DH watching porn.

There we’re quite a few responses saying ‘It’s fine.’

I linked your unforgettable article linked below as it was apt for the OP’s question. No one seemed to look, so I posted again copying and pasting it (all except the transgender part). Some people did read it and thought like we did about how horrifying it is.

One person thought it looked too long to read.

Blister · 10/02/2023 08:46

MishyJDI · 09/02/2023 08:10

Seems a rather simplistic analysis. Trans women and men being objectified by porn is as much a problem for them as it is for others - and the abuse that can follow in their relationships.

Girls wanting to be transmen due to how porn treats women seems a long stretch to make.

Violent porn is indeed an issue for everyone. Guys fantasising over being a woman, or whatever - perhaps a Furry, does not make them a transwoman. I can't say I recognise the transwomen and men I come across in day to day life as sexual deviants. They are just human beings.

Still - yes. Porn remains an issue that needs close attention on the destruction it can have to relationships and abuse.

Thanks for posting!

I smell bullshit in this response. Smacks of so much equality we can't see that there are disparate groups affected and different groups consuming the content despite "everyone" using the content. it is masking the complete disproportionality in the numbers by saying everyone is affected. Not all groups are affected equally when it comes to violent porn.

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