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An Open Letter to NHS England from concerned GIDS Staff

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InvisibleDragon · 08/02/2023 12:42

GIDS staff have published an open letter outlining their concerns about the closure of the GIDS clinic.

You can read the whole thing here:
medium.com/@GidsStaffGroup/an-open-letter-to-nhs-england-from-concerned-gids-staff-4e075dd574d2

Two bits that jumped out at me:

  1. Adverse events involving GIDS users:
In December 2020, GIDS clinicians wrote to NHS England and the Trust to advise that their decision to suspend Endocrine Pathways following the initial judicial review (Bell vs. Tavistock, December 2020) would increase clinical risk for our client group. It is the view of many clinical staff that NHS England and the Trust did not take heed of those warnings. In the 2 year time period following this, clinicians saw a significant increase in risks for our client group. And more widely, there was an increase in deaths related to the GIDS service. Many of these individual events have not yet been addressed through the Coroner’s Court and legal processes and therefore no further clarification can be made in relation to those events. And we would note that these events cannot be directly linked to decisions made by NHSE and the Trust; however, the culture of hostility and removal of clinical care pathways cannot be ruled out and in our clinical opinion these are contributing factors to the increase in harm in the patient group.

That sounds bad. I don't think it's an argument for keeping the service open.

  1. Data and research processes and expertise:
The GIDS has been publishing research articles on ethics, theory, practice, retrospective audits, interventions, the service model, updates to practice, instrument generation, letters to editors, and countless other topics of importance since 1999. GIDS staff and researchers have published over 83 research articles in peer reviewed journals in this time, with more in review. We have contributed to building evidence in the field of transgender mental health by attending and presenting at national and international conferences for over 10 years. We have systematically collected data about gender distress, psychological and behavioural wellbeing, traits associated with social communication difficulties, and feelings about the body, alongside other recognised quantitative service metrics. This data is used by clinicians in their assessment and support of young people as well as in published work. We regularly provide our clinicians with updates on the newest research in the field to keep them updated and conduct countless literature reviews on topics requested by them. We also provide them with research inductions to ensure data is collected consistently, and to give them the governance framework, tools, and support to carry out their own research in the service.

And yet, in their evidence during the Keira Bell Judicial review they could not produce the most basic of statistics about their clients.

Oh and one more thing ... On data governance:
Nevertheless, we developed governance structures and practices inspired by academia; our own standardised research proposal form, a research panel meeting, grant collaboration meetings with the government and with universities, supported research processes for trainee psychologists, further discussions of updates to data analysis with colleagues internationally and regular attendance to Trust research governance meetings. Our research team has a dedicated training manual to ensure consistency across team members. It takes over a month of induction training events to skill up new research assistants through a carefully considered programme; and even longer to start to grasp the uniqueness and nuance of this field of research.

The service was absolutely slammed by the CQC for its lack of standardisation of assessment processes, failure to record informed consent, lack of data process. So whatever month long trainings they are clearly not that effective!

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Boiledbeetle · 08/02/2023 13:15

I don't think using.

In January 2021, Clinical Care within GIDS was rated as “good” but due to other concerns the overall rating of “inadequate” was given by the CQC.

Whilst arguing that a lot of money was a Misuse of public funds by someone else was a well thought out move either. Whatever they were hoping to convey is lost once you read the line above. Way to go advertising the great service!

I really hope the staff don't transfer over without due diligence as to their current views, otherwise the same shit will just be replicated in the regional hubs.

And I hope they never get the New service up and running. If that means that the majority, other than the ones with parents daft enough to pay themselves, of these kids get to adult hood unmedicated and with their bodies intact great!

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 08/02/2023 13:18

They seem more interested in keeping their jobs and avoiding disciplinary/legal suits than they do in the welfare of troubled children.

would love to know what the 35 non-signatories think.

Also, Polly Carmichael said (on that Tortoise News podcast) that she was already working on the new specification so I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some of the 35 have signed new contracts and have been told not to tell the ones who are being dropped.

I would imagine that there is no legal compulsion for the new trusts to share info with the trust that runs GIDS (West London Mental Health Trust?) as the data only needs to flow in one direction.

That the 6 months notice of closure hasn’t been given might indicate a slow, steady handover is planned, rather than shut-the-doors and shunt-over (which could obviously end in teething problems!)

As far as I can tell, referrals to GIDS have ended and children are being temporarily directed to their local CAMHS (which is a whole new can of worms to discuss)

Helleofabore · 08/02/2023 13:40

This seems to be again resorting to emotional manipulation and they seem to have thrown in an appeal to authority, their own which completely failed to convince the world and the judges in a trial that their 'academic' work was either world class or worthy of consideration.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/02/2023 14:36

Tbh, they sound as delusional and self interested as the Mermaids staff. All the bleating about the extensive data they collected collapses in the face of the evidence in the damning CQC report and the interim Cass review.

Empowermenomore · 12/02/2023 00:14

It is fighting for jobs cry which I would had supported if they would had done a good ‘first no harm’ job to start with.

Empowermenomore · 12/02/2023 10:40

Follow up from last night. This people are the ones parents and kids should demand for negligence and criminal conduct when the health of their loved ones deteriorates due to the chemical castration recommended by this halfwits!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 12/02/2023 12:21

In December 2020, GIDS clinicians wrote to NHS England and the Trust to advise that their decision to suspend Endocrine Pathways following the initial judicial review (Bell vs. Tavistock, December 2020) would increase clinical risk for our client group. It is the view of many clinical staff that NHS England and the Trust did not take heed of those warnings. In the 2 year time period following this, clinicians saw a significant increase in risks for our client group. And more widely, there was an increase in deaths related to the GIDS service. Many of these individual events have not yet been addressed through the Coroner’s Court and legal processes and therefore no further clarification can be made in relation to those events.

I'm intrigued by this and I very much hope that these will be subject to sensitive and yet rigorous journalistic scrutiny when they do reach the Coroner's Court.

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