Transgender support group has influence at HM Prison and Probation Services

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An LGBT staff network that told civil servants that talking about “protecting women and girls” could be transphobic is part of the panel that advises on where to send transgender prisoners.

The Pride in Prison & Probation (Pipp) group emailed Ministry of Justice staff in November before Trans Awareness Week to tell them about language it considered transphobic if used in a “coded” way.

The Times can reveal that Pipp is part of HM Prison and Probation Service’s Transgender Advisory Board, which, among other things, advises on “the allocation policy of transgender prisoners”.

The board provides advice to HM Prison and Probation Services’s deputy director of operational services to inform policy and best practice.

The list circulated by Pipp included phrases such as “actual/real woman”, “adult human female” and “I stand with (insert name)”. “I stand with. . .” is often used alongside the author JK Rowling’s name by those who agree with her views on gender issues.

and much more at www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-support-group-has-influence-at-hm-prison-and-probation-services-xtwwblh9l

(hope this isn't a duplicate thread, did look but couldn't see anything)

if used in a “coded” way. This is like 'dog whistles' isn't it?
Basically facts they don't like.

It's all code, you see.

So when we say "protect women and girls" we mean "trans people smell!"

And when they say "decapitate terfs", that's code for "be kind!"

Do try to keep up.

Oh, when they "X can be considered transphobic", that's code for "there'll be a new list every six months, so please keep giving us taxpayer money for this nonsense, ta very much".

They think we never say what we mean in a straightforward, factual way. We always mean something other than what it seems to mean. Always lying, always using sleight of hand and subterfuge, that's us.

And they know what we really mean.

As if we've got the time.

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The article includes a quote from Kate Coleman of Keep Prisons Single Sex. KPSS are gardening at the moment if anyone can spare a couple of parsnips. The patch comes up if you search crowdfunder fighting for women in prison.

This is a staff network that's hostile to women being given a place on a board that wedges male sex offenders (and other offenders) into prisons with women. What are their qualifications for this (apart from misogyny of course)?

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See this is the thing. It’s no good allocating individuals places on a “case by case” basis if the organisation has had their training from Stonewall or whichever captured group.

Here is a training video for searching of trans prisoners. Safeguarding Red flags all over the place.

And when I read that, and all that 'you can't say this' and 'you can't say that', my answer is increasingly look, fuck it.

They are men.
They have no place in women's prisons.
This is ridiculous.
I don't care if it's politics, misogyny, or what it is. Just bloody stop it.

And I'm honestly not interested in whether the man terrifying and oppressing the woman in a prison is feeling genuinely sincerely confused about his gender, or is exploiting a very obvious way of having a much nicer time in prison.

Because it makes no bloody odds to the woman. And the world does not revolve solely and entirely around men.

Remember, only the 'special people ' can see the magic that some men are actually women. Special people are all progressive and liberal and kind and glittery.

Anyone who does not pass the 'specialness' test because they question the magic or will not repeat the mantras is a bad person. It is a given that if you are not special you hold bigoted views and if it's not obvious, there is definitely a hidden bigoted meaning behind your words, no matter how innocuous they may seem which MUST be pointed out so that special people are scared to question the magic for fear that they will discover that they are actually bigots.

Even the trans-advocates don't appear to believe that TWAW:

a particular individual in a UK female prison
If PIPP believe that TWAW, why didn't they say 'a particular transwoman in a UK female prison'? Are they afraid that by doing so rational people would recognise the phrase to actually mean 'a particular male prisoner in a UK female prison'?

that applies equally to women and trans people
If Belcher believes that TWAW, why didn't they say 'that applies equally to women and transwomen', or even 'to all women', when making the spurious claim that TW are more at risk of violence than cause such risk, even in women’s prisons?

People are frightened of being labelled transphobic.

I know Im not transphobic but if I were called it, I dont really care.

It is so sinister. The more that comes out about this ideology the more we see how downright devious they are pulling the wool over our establishments. By the time the sane ones realise what's going on the rulzz have been embedded. Hope the whole lot tumbles.

Sorry about the lack of share token. For some reason I can see all of the article although I am not a paid subscriber, so thought it would be possible for others to read.

But I am glad the Times have made this public. We should really be keeping a list of all the institutions where a tiny minority are allowed to decide what is or is not premissible.

Prisons
Universities
BBC
IPSO

and ...

If the share token runs out some nice person (not me!) has archived it on archive.ph

Just enter the Times link in the OP and you should get it.