NSPCC-where do they stand?

[AutisticLegoLover]

Are they still a problem? Ds's school are fund raising today and I actually forgot but I know last year it wasn't something we supported. Nor do we support Children In Need but give to the local women's centre instead. They do great work and give a lot of support. I'm aware of the guy who was wanking in fetish gear but think he was dismissed?
Are they ok now or are they still clueless when it comes to safeguarding?
Thank you.

I think they showed their true colours when they changed their definition of child abuse to be based on whether the child recognised it as abuse or not.

I thought at the time that this was exactly the point. Children don't recognise abuse, at times they are told it is love. Adults are meant to keep children safe, through safeguarding - or at least it would be if we could prevent abuse from happening by applying safeguarding.

I would do a background search on them here OP. I think you'll find all you need to know.

Thank you.

OhHolyJesus I had a quick look at the website and can’t find the definition you refer to - rather the reverse, but not ready to let them off the hook. Can you provide a reference? Sorry not to take you at your omnipotent word ;-)

I checked that a while back and it was still there. Will try and find it again.

Here it is.

learning.nspcc.org.uk/services/speak-out-stay-safe

Previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3611569-Is-NSPCC-school-guidance-for-kids-re-sexual-abuse-shifting-the-Overton-Window-Need-expert-advise-to-break-this-down

There is a problem with the wording on their KS2 section on sexual abuse, accessed via Arabella's link. If a child has been successfully groomed, they might not feel worried or frightened by what they are being asked to do / is being done to them. Which according to the NSPCC website would mean it isn't abuse:

Sexual abuse:

When a child is being made, asked or rewarded for doing anything with their body that frightens or worries them - or being asked to do this to somebody else

Ok, on the Evidence section from the same link it says this:

“However research tells us it can take children years to tell someone about experiencing abuse and neglect, if they disclose at all (Allnock and Miller, 2013)2.

One of the reasons for this is that children lack knowledge and understanding about abuse and neglect. Many children do not recognise their experiences as abusive (McElearney et al, 2011)3, or do not have the language to disclose the abuse (Alaggia et al, 2017)4.”

So I’m wondering if it is poor wording rather than intentionally misleading. Don’t get me wrong, not defending the NSPCC, although I would certainly feel happier if I thought their social media star was a one off!

I’ll read the previous thread - probably should have done that before posting 😊

They also say things like 'Young people may want to use pronouns that reflect their gender identity such as ‘she’ or ‘her’, while others may prefer gender neutral pronouns such as ‘they’. They may also want to change their name. Try to use the correct pronouns and name when referring to your child, or ask if you’re unsure. You may also want to ask your child if they’d like you to speak to extended family or their school about the pronouns they prefer or about a name change.'

www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/sex-relationships/gender-identity/

IMO This is way too affirmative and does not recognised the complexities and comorbidities presenting with children asking for a change of pronouns. It goes against the advice per Hilary Cass as far as I can see.

Hello again. I have this morning removed my child from school as the HT refused to respect my wishes that my child was not to take part in anything to do with the NSPCC. I was told it was "impossible" to remove my child from the activities, therefore I removed my child for the day. I am not one for confrontation but the HT not respecting my lack of consent made me see red. I'm so angry.

NSPCC is running a policy that promotes secrets between any adult and a child, and that child consent exists.

See also this thread for similar policy examples: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269520-my-14-year-old-daughter-has-been-sharing-school-changing-rooms-including-swimming-with-a-male-the-school-never-told-me-or-her-what-would-you-do

With these kind of policies in use and their defence being observed for many years now by the authoritative institutions, keeping children away from the institutions that enforce them is pretty much the only option left.

Thank you. I am very much that parent lately but I refuse to be told by the HT that my consent isn't valid and that the previous arrangement for my child not to take part isn't possible.

Apparently this NSPCC day is a maths day and part of the national curriculum but all the children had to take money in to wear their own clothes as part of it. Sounds optional to me. I've raised this with school before and pointed out what is wrong with the NSPCC but they continue to run these sessions along with children in need with the teacher is a pudsy suit. There are more sessions arranged later in the year for the nspcc but I have no trust now for the school to keep dc out of the sessions.