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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dr David Bell letter in Guardian - Gender identity treatment needs greater caution

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UnWilly · 27/01/2023 22:09

Can't see a thread on this already

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/27/gender-identity-treatment-needs-greater-caution

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Villagetoraiseachild · 27/01/2023 22:35

Thank you for posting this. From the Guardian too.....The tide is definitely turning.

oviraptor21 · 27/01/2023 22:43

Indeed. Just came here to see if this had been picked up. In days and months past I don't think the Guardian would have published this. Small steps. Small steps.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/01/2023 22:55

Good for him for challenging yet another biased and inaccurate report from the captured Guardian. His letter clearly highlights how they framed issues :
"your article overemphasises the long waiting list and underemphasises that it was a waiting list for the wrong treatment, as Cass makes clear"

"A clinician you quote says some staff left the Gender Identity Development Service (Gids) “in a destructive way”. They did not – they raised serious concerns with their managers which resulted in their intimidation. These concerns were borne out by the Cass review"

"Your article makes no reference to the growing group of detransitioners – those who regret the irreversible damage done and feel that their “treatment” was based on ideology, not appropriate clinical concern"

Thank heavens for people with integrity like David Bell. If it was left to rags like the Guardian, there's be no saving children from this ideology.

Apollo441 · 28/01/2023 00:21

Can't believe they printed it. No doubt they'll give prominence to a fact free TRA response.

WinterDeWinter · 28/01/2023 00:47

I had the privilege of attending a course with David bell and - before he had spoken out on this - the piercing intelligence, humanity and fearlessness of the man was unmistakable from the first day. He’s a genuinely remarkable person and we owe him a huge debt I think. He’s also mildly irascible, as one would wish. 😁

BlueBrush · 28/01/2023 09:43

Thanks for sharing. He's fantastic - I love his clarity of argument. I'm going to make a mental note of this phrasing around the fact that the majority of children on puberty blockers go on to take cross sex hormones:

Almost all children on puberty blockers continue to opposite-sex hormones; an unknown number progress to major surgery. The ethical weight of the decision to commence the medical pathway is freighted with that knowledge.

SinnerBoy · 28/01/2023 14:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 22:55

Good for him for challenging yet another biased and inaccurate report from the captured Guardian. His letter clearly highlights how they framed issues :

I was surprised to see it, too; but pleased. I suppose that he has some measure of influence and could have complained, to ensure that they made corrections to their -utter falsehoods- mistakes.

But still, the Guardian is beginning to show a bit of a trend.

WinterDeWinter · 29/01/2023 14:41

I've just read that back - it was a course "given" by Prof Bell. We weren't both on a Deutsch for beginners course or something 😁

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