Scottish rugby have updated their policy for trans players.

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scottishrugby.org/statement-gender-participation-policy/

Aligned with World Rugby and SCEG. Good news.

Good. They must feel very isolated.

Oh, the McBigots! Kidding, that's excellent news.

I'm sure some of the few people affected will be gutted. They perhaps should reflect on how they would have felt if they had caused a woman to be injured

excellent news, i hope this spreads to other rugby organizations and other sports.

Fantastic 👏🏼

Well done SRU

Well done to them.

contact rugby for players in the women’s category is limited to those whose sex was recorded as female at birth

Well stated.

Excellent policy, puts safety and fairness first. Thank you, Scottish Rugby.

I opened this thread with some trepidation

great to see safety and fairness being prioritised

Well done SRU. The various rugby union bodies have been much better than governments on this issue. There has been a lot of concerns about injuries , particularly head injuries , recently. The laws on tackling have been changed and players have to miss games if they have been concussed etc.
But no change to the rules will overcome the disparity in muscle mass or lung capacity between most men and women on a contact sport.

Good news, but the bare minimum, really.
No need for a commitment to annual/regular review, since there will never not be a time when men are women.
Sex recorded at birth could include athletes with a male DSD.
It being rugby, I am very uncomfortable with women who claim to be men playing with or against men, even if they accept the risks.
There shouldn't be any need for a transgender policy any more than a star sign policy because sport is played with the body.
Having said that, the policy is a million times better than World Athletics proposals, so I congratulate Scottish Rugby.

Good.

Admittedly I'm not very in the loop, but wasn't the GRR about TW being able to their original birth certificate to show they were born a female? I get posting an update to the original certificate, but not changing the original entry. If so, this could still be problematic in future? I may have completely misunderstood!

Excellent!

Well, yes clarry if the GRR goes through any male with a fiver can obtain a birth certificate saying that their sex was recorded female at birth.

Cripes. That’s awful

Phew.

Whilst this is good news I'm sorry but surely this would be irrelevant if the GRR had not been stopped since birth certificates are changed when you hand your fiver over. The Haldene ruling was clear that it was for ALL purposes.

This ruling is irrelevant if someone has a GRC which is the real problem.

Yes, I think it is going to be difficult to keep males out of female sport if the GRR is given the royal assent.

Some common sense. Let's hope that it can be upheld should the GRR ever does get pushed through.

Yes, it always leads back to the abject foolishness the fudgy mess that is the GRA2004.

Yeah, I think rugby is in a lot of trouble, really, with these huge brain injury lawsuits [from both ex pro & amateur players of both sexes] looming on the horizon, really unpleasant stuff but I should think they make it fairly trivially easy to push through any halfway sensible [and probably some less sensible] rule changes or clarifications that'll help de-risk the game, especially with the ruling from WR this one's a no-brained for domestic bodies.

Yes. I really believe the intention was good but it didn't address the root of the problem which was/is stereotypes and general attitude to the gender non-conforming.

If everyone were cool with males wearing dresses and make up or whatever there would be no need to go to the extremes of falsifying birth certificates to 'protect' people with gender dysphoria.

@jellyfrizz
I wonder... In 2000-2002 were we really as a society that intolerant of gender non-conforming people? I don't remember it that way. The decision in Goodwin and the unwillingness to make same sex marriage legal were the overt reasons but I have seen arguments from feminists saying that, in hindsight, the aim of the GRA2004 was to conflate sex and gender. So the fudging was deliberate.

Wasn't that the argument used though? That people couldn't be 'outed' as trans as it was dangerous?

I mean, the same argument is still used today in regards to why trans women couldn't possibly use the male toilets.

But yeah, I remember seeing something about the whole plan to conflate sex and gender in law.