Trans self-ID since 2015 — and no horror stories - The Times

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-self-id-since-2015-and-no-horror-stories-vzzfx6fvs

Bollocks.
Literally.

Can someone please do a share token?

Yes it's interesting how here in Ireland we needed a referendum to change the scope of marriage from exclusively between a man and a woman - but changing legal sex can be done pronto (just fill out a form) with next to no public discussion. Almost like it was a set up, designed to stay out of the public eye.

And the reason there aren't stories is because it just isn't being talked about over here in the media. I remember the story of Barbie Kardashian several years ago in the Irish Times (I think), nowhere did they mention it was a man. I recall reading it and being horrified that a woman could be so violent, that's why I remember it.
It was only months later I realised who it actually was. They basically lied about the facts, and there have been several stories (usually about sex offenders) where they don't refer to them as man at all. Such bad journalism.

The media here won't touch it with a bargepole, bar a few journalists who seem to get abuse when they do mention it. Our government are hell bent on being seen as super liberal and progressive - they threw women under the bus and don't give a shit. Please don't be like us, it's a fucking shitshow here.

I'm interested in Paddy O'Gorman choosing to cover it. It's as though a lfetime of only listening directly to people talking about their experiences, never to spokesmen or representatives or commentators has left him immune to spin.

Can this thread be linked to Craicnet, @Farmageddon ? I mean without being hidden from FWR but I'm a technophobe!

White's multiple victims
Katie Dwhatzit's victims
The male with very severe mental health issues in a women's prison in Ireland with a trail left behind them of injured women victims
The woman raped on the NHS hospital ward who then suffered the second trauma of the hospital lying to an insane degree to try and protect her male attacker

And these are the ones physically harmed that are in the public domain.

All disappeared for the better convenience of male people. These women imagined away with other inconvenient facts such as no one can change sex

Amnesty International waa founded by an Irish man , Sean MacBride. Yet now we have Amnesty Ireland calling for gender critical feminists to lose political representation and access to the media.

Sean MacBride's granddaughter, Iseult White is a GC feminist. Ironies abound here.

Are there no consequenses for newspapers that print anything this untrue?

Unfortunately the archive doesn't capture the comments; archive.ph/21qMB

O'Neill opines:

The Gender Recognition Act was introduced here in 2015 to little fanfare; many Irish people are likely to be unaware of its existence because it has had no discernible impact on their lives.

Perhaps it has to do with the fact that many people in Ireland aren't locked up with violent rapists? Or perhaps, I'm not sure, she just made that up?

This person simply doesn't care that women are collateral damage in their need for affirmation.

Good to see the utter pasting the got in the comments. No one is buying this shit any more.

The photo of the balding self IDing obvious male playing football against a much smaller woman, in Ireland.

To me that's a horror story.

It's one of their mantras, isn't it? It just makes the process easier, it doesn't affect you. I don't think the process should exist at all, but for as long as it does, it should not be easy.

Earning a driving license isn't easy.
Securing citizenship isn't easy.
Qualifying as a doctor isn't easy.

Not everything in life should be easy, and men gaining legal status which enables them to access women's spaces is one of those things.

Safeguarding and gatekeeping are not dirty words.

I have a Times subscription but am
cancelling as they are requiring ‘real names’ now in their comments section. That’s not safe for me in this situation so final straw.

Does anyone have a link to the Amnesty Ireland letter about this please? (Need to show my DH)

It may be this, Dame

gcn.ie/irish-lgbtq-community-stand-irishsolidarit-transphobia-trans-day-remembrance/

On the contrary, thanks to the capture of media regulators, (I’m not sure what the Irish equivalent to IPSO is but I’m sure they are in the same situation) the consequences are bad if newspapers actually print the truth about these stories.

A trans led organisation called Press for Change has been working for years on the media representation of trans people (only positive or sympathetic stories allowed - no negative stories or truthful reporting of crimes, sanctions for transgression) and then obviously Stonewall sealed the deal by dictating the policies of IPSO, Ofcom etc.

Stories abound of oddly predatory ‘female’ sex offenders often identifiable by the lack of photo of the perpetrator or from some brave editors, a photo or the stubble laden lady.

Let us say unequivocally that the statements of newly launched organisations that seek to defend biology or fight gender identity and expression do not represent the wider LGBTI+ community nor feminists in Ireland.

The vitriol and disinformation these accounts and people share does not represent the beliefs of the legitimate organisations and signers of this letter, and together we repudiate their beliefs, and call for an end in giving airtime to their despicable brand of harassment.

We call on media, and politicians to no longer provide legitimate representation for those that share bigoted beliefs, that are aligned with far right ideologies and seek nothing but harm and division. These fringe internet accounts stand against affirmative medical care of transgender people, and they stand against the right to self-identification of transgender people in this country

We would ask that you do not engage with those that seek to simply project false information, or hateful words. Please do not use your voice to engage with people that are bad faith actors.

Some key paragraphs from the Amnesty Ireland letter backed by other international orgs and some Irish ‘women’s’ charities. . There is much much more and I do recommend everyone reads it. A human rights organisation seeking to remove human rights from a group of people.

I have a feeling this is unprecedented?

I mean, even terrorists get protection of their basic human rights don’t they?

Thanks Rex!

TLDR!

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God that was wafferly tripe

RichardBarrister · Today 13:12

As a perfect illustration of the issues of self id, Barbie Kardashian was seen at a gender clinic who said that Barbie did not have gender dysphoria but Barbie applied for and received a GRC anyway and is now being treated as if Barbie was female despite not being trans by the common definition.

To update the Equality Act to make clear ‘sex’ is biological sex, not sex as modified by a gender recognition certificate.
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www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=1

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This Never Happens - by JL - The Glinner Update

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As everyone says, for there to be evidence, the introducers of the policy need to re of use that this is a social change they need to record the effect of. And as we know, this ideology is implemented on behalf of those who refuse to accept any questions, evidence or data gathering, and they’ll call you names if you try.

So no-one is doing this work. Sex is not
recorded, data on men identifying as women is not recorded, no-one is doing the qualitative research amongst women. Women get the message loud and clear that if they don’t like the policy change, the fault is with them and they deserve social punishment for it.

So yes, the ‘No evidence’ argument is yet another lie. No one is recording or measuring the nature of change, it’s extent or it’s impact.

Its a bit like me saying because I have never seen photos or films of Australia ( I could have googled it but I never bothered) or have known anyone whose been there ( they tried to tell me about their holiday to Sydney but I stopped them), then there is no evidence Australia exists.

Absolute nonsense. There are numerous and noteworthy horror stories caused by self-ID.

Even more ironically, she wasn't a GC feminist at the time Amnesty Ireland published the letter.

She was far more inclined towards TWAW side of debate. However, she believed in the principles that Amnesty used to stand for, far more than anything else, which led her to stand up for the political rights of people she didn't personally agree with.

She's an incredibly noble example of humanity, imo.

Obviously, after that, she started investigating why GC feminists are concerned, and the TWAW lot were too busy screaming at her for wrongthink and treason to maintain her trust. The rest is history.

I remember watching Iseult climb that same hill many have climbed. She really was not aware of the issues but when she was, she fired up and has been fighting for women and children ever since.