Gen Z waking up

[JoyceMeadowcroft1]

My work involves spending time having involved discussions with Gen Zs. I also have Gen Z children.

A typical pattern (unsurprisingly) is that the boys/young men are less oriented to the 'be kind' position and often find much of the TRA narratives ridiculous and not worthy of their attention. The exception to this are those with LGBT skin in the game and those who are interested in equality and women's rights. There are few of these!

I have seen quite a dramatic change in the girls/young women who subscribe 'be kind' and 'inclusion without exception'. They are getting increasingly fed up with including and accommodating people who, it turns out, demand that they remain front and centre of everything, who want their needs/interests to determine what happens, when it happens and how.

Young women and girls, speaking 1:1 with me, have moved from arguing that it's vital that trans rights are met, celebrating when teachers are being appropriately responsive, welcoming groups/clubs being inclusive to expressing concern that teachers / lecturers are treading on egg shells in a way that leads to missing out on lesson time and important content (and lesson time is being lost by trans students reprimanding others for misgendering and asking for clarification about upcoming content so they know if they will need to leave the room), and saying that many of the trans people in their clubs/groups are so demanding/ policing and self centred that the enjoyment of attending has been lost.

These young women/ girls (for now) still hold their philosophical beliefs about TWAW and that the wrong sorts of feminists are evil. However, they have very quickly become disabused of the idea that all trans people are vulnerable, fragile individuals who need protecting. This is a step towards their current beliefs/ ideology losing any kind of stable foundation that it needs to survive.

This has reinforced to me that it has 'always been thus' that young people have not taken the word of others but have learned through their own experience. Unfortunately, they will learn more about the ugly truth of many under the trans umbrella and their views will again shift.

Ultimately, there is no future for the vision of the future that TRAs hold. I'm both fearful and hopeful about the resulting increased level of hatred towards women from MRAs. My hope is that once the TRA veil they use to mask their hatred of WAG is dropped, it will be more transparent and more light will lead to more accountability.

Baby steps. But steps nonetheless.

Fingers crossed it continues....

Things like the brit awards may continue to demonstrate the idiocy and sexism of it all.

It really does depend on the school and the gen z involved. So, for example, DCs' school is pretty switched on but that could be because most of the pupils are Asian, Arabic and Black. We know that these communities just don't buy into gender ideology and the school's attitude mostly reflects that.

You are right that most of the boys couldn't care less about gender ideology. Generally, girls who are more likely to vulnerable to it seem to be the white girls but in this school they're cushioned somewhat by their BAME female friends attitudes. There's one girl in the school who is non-binary and, yes, she's white.

Finally, there are a students who have autism and they're getting fed up of their disability being identified into.

So yes attitudes are changing amongst the teens. Group by group, school by school. I am hopeful for them.

DD pays lip service at school, she says they will be suspended for any GC comments. But most of the kids are well aware that the cultists are the me, me, me people who are just plain hard work and they are not liked.

I work in a high school and I find that most are deeply uninterested, there are instances of genuine transphobia (mostly scrawled on toilet doors - whoever claimed young people were more tolerant was having a laugh) and an unthinking acceptance of pronouns etc that is completely detached from the fact that they all know what a woman/man is ie if someone is trans they accept it (but maybe write something rude in the toilets) but this does not impinge on their ability to correctly sex everyone else or acknowledge reality when they are not actively "being kind".

The difference between their blind acceptance and the TRA stance is that when you point out the inconsistency in their thinking they get it straight away, and accept they were being a bit stupid. They don't cling to the cognitive dissonance.

And that's presumably because they don't actually care enough to keep believing.

They have been spoonfed a diet of fairytales and lies from early on and so have a surface acceptance, but if they're not true believers (and the vast vast majority of them are not) then they are open to sense, reality and critical thinking when it is introduced to them. (They think it was themselves getting it wrong and misunderstanding though - they don't realise yet they were purposefully lied to).

I think if TRAs are pinning their hopes on the youth, they are going to be disappointed. For the vast majority of young people, genderism is not their battle and they have no interest in fighting it.

This thread suggests that the problem in schools partly comes from Millennial teaching staff enforcing the gender identity ideology in a desperate attempt for them, themselves, to be relevant.