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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Internalised Misogyny, any recommendations? Or thoughts?

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ElderFloury · 19/01/2023 19:34

Spoke to a couple of people today who had never heard of internalised Misogyny and both seemed amazed it was a thing. Can anyone recommend any reading on it?
I know often women are some of the biggest proponents of misogynistic values (and let's face it there are plenty who are desperate to let blokes into women's toilets under the Be Kind mantle), and I see my own internalised misogyny sometimes, I'm not immune to it.
Interested to hear perspectives and do further reading.

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FriendofJoanne · 19/01/2023 19:42

I only heard of it this year too, I haven't got any links or recommendations, I'm not sure where I came across it, probably on here, or via Julie Bindel. I've been wondering how much I was influenced by this as a young woman, in feeling the need to dress sexy. Is internalised misogyny why teens today are all succumbing to the porn look?

FriendofJoanne · 19/01/2023 19:43

I'm sure it was on a Julie Bindel podcast actually - something about us viewing ourselves through the eyes we think a man will view us and dressing / acting accordingly.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 19/01/2023 19:55

I would consider recommending invisible women - I think it is a really good primer / intro book answering the kind of 'what have women still got to complain about nowadays'

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 19/01/2023 21:09

It's a bit like Stockholm syndrome. A protective defense. To break free of it, is to realise that throughout the entire world, women's rights are granted or removed on the whim of men. That's a scary place. I understand why so many women want to play along with the system.

I wish I could link, but a while ago there was light-hearted but interesting research on women who go out in the winter without coats. The research discovered that the coatless women weren't feeling the cold the same way women who wrapped up were. They concluded that it was linked to the level of self-objectification each woman performed. So a woman who self-objectified more, was more able to stand in nightclub queues in just a teeny dress and not notice the cold.

Self-objectifying involves performing feminine stereotypes to a high degree. Something which there is quite a lot of pressure on girls and women to do. If it leads to an inability to feel cold, are other feelings also dampened? What about discomfort, anger, pleasure, pain etc? What are the benefits to a patriarchy of women not really feeling all their feelings?

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