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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

People from our side being vocal on Twitter re gender identity ideology in schools

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Leafstamp · 11/01/2023 16:37

Is it me or is the the schools issue is gaining in intensity?

Look at the replies on this thread: twitter.com/Headteacherchat/status/1613087688378417152

The Education Secretary really needs to get a grasp of this.

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WarriorN · 12/01/2023 21:31

It seems as if Ofsted are trying to quietly row back on their enthusiasm for trans ideology but without anyone noticing.

It's also subjective. Without the guidance directly from KCSIE or Ofsted, individual inspectors are slightly open to how they interpret what they're looking for.

They're looking for reasons for schools not to be outstanding at the moment; it's v hard to be outstanding now.

If 'kids know the EA characteristics' seems to have been one tick list locally. Which resulted in neg comments that children in one school near here didn't know what transgender was. (Possibly linked to KCSIE bullying para?) Which means schools will then do direct teaching about EA.

Heads read the reports avidly and share lists of questions or what was said internally on fb groups or lea contacts, head teacher meetings etc. the public reports themselves are extremely sparse. A great deal more is said in feedback sessions. (The previous comment from individual feedback was passed to me via a head from another head after their Ofsted. It's not written like that in the report.)

Many are current SLT or retired heads or DH. Unless direct statements are made by Ofsted or it's in KCSIE it's all going to row back when general society does. Till then schools are adding to it all.

(Sorry, some of my posts aren't great with grammar as I'm rushing and squinting.)

ResisterRex · 12/01/2023 21:58

A search of LinkedIn will show that Ofsted is quite captured.

WaffleDogBlanket · 12/01/2023 22:25

It is really scary though, that a Federation employing that many staff across that many schools, affecting that many children, can have policies that are SO DANGEROUS. And so divorced from reality and law. And there's no one doong anything about it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/01/2023 01:49

WaffleDogBlanket · 12/01/2023 22:25

It is really scary though, that a Federation employing that many staff across that many schools, affecting that many children, can have policies that are SO DANGEROUS. And so divorced from reality and law. And there's no one doong anything about it.

Yes it is and don't hold your breath on Dept of Ed doing anything while Gillian Keegan is Minister for Education. She has recently refused to define "girl" and is TWAW.Angry

TheBestUsernamesAreGone · 13/01/2023 06:33

Looking at PSHE stuff my kids have brought home it seems that 'gay' and 'lesbian' now means 'attracted to the same gender'.
I hate that I've tried to raise both of them to know that it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, you can play with/like/do anything you want and now we're all being reduced to a set of stereotypes.

ResisterRex · 13/01/2023 07:39

TheBestUsernamesAreGone · 13/01/2023 06:33

Looking at PSHE stuff my kids have brought home it seems that 'gay' and 'lesbian' now means 'attracted to the same gender'.
I hate that I've tried to raise both of them to know that it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, you can play with/like/do anything you want and now we're all being reduced to a set of stereotypes.

I would not be happy about this. It gets the law wrong on sexual orientation. I would challenge it and/or send it to Ofsted. They should not be teaching "same gender".

ResisterRex · 13/01/2023 07:41

Meant to say, even though Ofsted is captured to an unknown extent, Amanda Spielman seemed to realise (in the last year or so) that they had to sort themselves out. And the facts are the facts. "Same gender" doesn't exist in the Equality Act so it can't be wriggled out of.

2fallsfromSSA · 13/01/2023 07:46

Just quickly putting this here, our response to the headteachers thread which summarises and highlights a lot of the points being made on this thread.

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1613596411525840896?s=46&t=ENaKSFMBKu9m9LwtEWCnGQ

CryInToYourCornflakesNicola · 13/01/2023 07:58

mollynolly · 11/01/2023 19:18

Given that my child's godparent is trans I frankly couldn't give a hoot.

Are you trying to say your childs godparent is into beastiality?

Cos I'm not sure I'd let someone like that near my children.

I cant think why else you would mention this fact on a thread about beastiality.

2fallsfromSSA · 13/01/2023 08:24

IcakethereforeIam · 11/01/2023 18:34

The SSA have lots of links to Change.org petition asking the Tate to stop pushing gender at kids. The links just go to Change.org. I've tried searching the site and I can't find their petition. Has it been removed?

It was removed by change and is now hosted on a different platform. Will just find the link.

2fallsfromSSA · 13/01/2023 08:26

@IcakethereforeIam it's now here

www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-gender-propaganda-at-Tate

IcakethereforeIam · 13/01/2023 09:55

Thank you, signed it.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/01/2023 10:08

2fallsfromSSA · Today 08:24
IcakethereforeIam · 11/01/2023 18:34
The SSA have lots of links to Change.org petition asking the Tate to stop pushing gender at kids. The links just go to Change.org. I've tried searching the site and I can't find their petition. Has it been removed?

It was removed by change and is now hosted on a different platform. Will just find the link.

Thank you, I have signed this.

I had credited the Tate with more intelligence. This is disappointing to hear about and an example of a great public institution sinking to the very lowest common denominator.

Can we get this on the petitions board so as to keep posting it without getting deleted?

www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-gender-propaganda-at-Tate

IcakethereforeIam · 13/01/2023 10:15

I've put it on the petition board

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

ScrollingLeaves · 13/01/2023 11:25

IcakethereforeIam · Today 10:15
I've put it on the petition board
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

Well done, that’s a good idea.

If anyone wants to hear what Helen Joyce says about Drag Queen Story hour,the drag queen in question, and why no it is not the same as panto, this subject comes up on her Triggernometry talk.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/01/2023 11:29

Apropos the Tate pushing gender ideology on to young children, ⬆️

Helen Joyce on Triggernometry explains Drag Queen Story Hour and what is wrong with it.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/01/2023 16:44

Listen to the talk with Helen Joyce from about 47 minutes on to hear her succinct explanation of how Drag Queen Story Time is used to indoctrinate children.

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