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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lgb focused primary introduction

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SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 20:07

HI, have been given the task of introductory assembly during lgb week. Want to ensure the resources don't reinforce stereotypes or gender ideology and comply with dfe guidance.
Before I make my own was wondering if anyone knows of a standard non paying resource, PowerPoint or video etc. Something like tes for example.
If not content wise I'm thinking of looking at the history and which specific rights were fought for and won.

Thanks.

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WarriorN · 06/01/2023 20:24

Is this primary or secondary? I wasn't aware there was an LGB week, is it called LGB or is it lgbt? Is it a school only decision to do it?

I tend to make from scratch these days as don't trust any other sources!

ScrollingLeaves · 06/01/2023 20:32

Why is this at a primary school assembly at all?

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 20:35

Because of LGBT week. Yes primary.
Yes put LGB because I don't know how you would.include the without breaching the DfE guidelines.

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WarriorN · 06/01/2023 20:35

I missed primary or rather interpreted it as a "first intro" as it's unusual to have this for primary.

Agree inappropriate. Are school doing a stonewall type quality mark?

LaughingPriest · 06/01/2023 20:36

Is this for a specific year in Primary? I didn't think they go into this in any depth in EYFS/KS1 at least - there is a bit of 'families can look like XYZ (ie not just 'a mum and a dad and a child') but not about sex or attraction afaik.

WarriorN · 06/01/2023 20:36

So you have to do this?

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 20:37

Nope it's fairly standard in.primary. school not captured but fair to say may be clueless and just pick a twinkl style stonewall nightmare just out of convenience rather than want.

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SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 20:38

KS2 in advance for LGBT week. Get timetables in advance for assembly.

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WarriorN · 06/01/2023 20:46

The only way I'd possibly look at it is via families and how some children might have two mums or two dads. Could also do this within contexts of families all look different, step parents, carers, grand parents who are the main carers, parents who are disabled, etc. could then move onto cover civil partnership/ ability to marry and that it was only really quite recent that same sex marriage was legal. We surely shouldn't really know who is trans.

A few historically famous gay or bi people eg artists such as Frida Kahlo, who was also disabled (they'll all know now from Disney/ Coco) which would pad it out a bit.
????

I'd potentially hand it over to SLT to do pointing out the hot potato of dfe guidance.

Are they having a disabilities focus week?

WarriorN · 06/01/2023 20:48

clueless and just pick a twinkl style stonewall nightmare

This is basically teaching now imo. And how the rot is getting in.

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 21:21

Handing over to SLT would be a very bad idea. Apart from the fact you'd get accused of unprofessionalism not doing your assigned workload, they'd do the twinkl cobbled stonewall fix. Lucky to have been given this because can avoid the rot, was just hoping something that meets the DfE guidelines would be available. In primary you very much have to pull your weight SLT don't guide as much as secondary I believe.

And disability week, you are having a laugh. No school I have ever been in does anything beyond a Beethoven assembly. And that was delivered by a member of staff with a disability. This will set off a whole week of activities and needs to set the tone.

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SlagathaChristie · 06/01/2023 21:33

A whole week of activities? Not to derail, but why the fuck do children need to spend a week dedicating time to homosexuality/bisexuality??? Wtf? I'm bi, and I cannot fathom how anybody would think this necessary or appropriate. Surely a "some families/couples are like this, some like that " would be more than enough?

Primary kids shouldn't be encouraged to think that deeply about sex and romance full stop. Bloody hell.

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 21:51

Tbh most primaries tend to do this to make up for lack of diversity the rest of the year. Curriculum all white men? Don't worry shoehorn light and black history into a week and you are golden.
I don't agree with this approach because it is bothering and they tend to miss out disability and women, but I'm afraid I don't make the rules.

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SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 21:51

Othering not bothering

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SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 21:53

Lgbt not light ahhh autocorrect

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/01/2023 21:59

.Surely a "some families/couples are like this, some like that " would be more than enough?

Yes, and I think they have that already anyway.

Primary kids shouldn't be encouraged to think that deeply about sex and romance full stop. Bloody hell.

I completely agree.
All they need to know is that in relationships with people we care about we show care, respect and love. A relationship can be with your parents, grandparents, siblings, friends and perhaps even animals. There are all sorts of families. That’s it.

Since when is it about sex/sexual orientation, in assembly?

Echobelly · 06/01/2023 22:12

Who's saying it's about sex? I'm don't think anyone's suggesting it will be a solid week of LGBTQ content, just some age appropriate sessions each day about different types of families and not bullying people for their sexuality or that of their parents etc. No one, anywhere, is suggesting primary kids getting assemblies about anal something!

I see too many people falling into the trap of assuming talking about homosexuality is somehow more 'sexual' than talking about heterosexuality. No one worries you're somehow going to go straight to sex from talking about a heterosexual couple with young kids, so why do people act as if six year olds are going to start asking about strap-ons or something the moment you mention a couple who happen to both be women?

toomanytrees · 06/01/2023 22:43

Apart from anything else, how utterly boring for primary age children. When did education become preaching.

lanadelgrey · 06/01/2023 22:47

So sad that they do nothing about disability. Kids are more likely to be with fellow students with a disability or Sen and it to impact their interactions on a daily basis

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 22:49

Well again, not my idea and I'm not in charge.

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ScrollingLeaves · 06/01/2023 22:51

I see too many people falling into the trap of assuming talking about homosexuality is somehow more 'sexual' than talking about heterosexuality

Assemblies aren’t about heterosexuality either. To discuss the subject of either heterosexuality or homosexuality in a meaningful way I’d think you would bring up the idea of physical attraction - which is sex. Unless you just say some men love other men, some women love other women, men and women often love each other, some people love both men or women.

Children already have teaching about the different sorts of families there are, and about protected characteristics in age appropriate ways.

What more could you say at this age. Talk about the history? Greeks and Romans, how some religions outlaw same sex relationships but our laws changed everything for gay people only recently?

This is all rather heavy for a primary school child’s assembly imo. Presumably this would be a mixed age group too.

CheesenCrackersmm · 06/01/2023 22:56

A whole week of that? REALLY?

Mumdiva99 · 06/01/2023 23:00

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 21:51

Tbh most primaries tend to do this to make up for lack of diversity the rest of the year. Curriculum all white men? Don't worry shoehorn light and black history into a week and you are golden.
I don't agree with this approach because it is bothering and they tend to miss out disability and women, but I'm afraid I don't make the rules.

I've not come across any primaries that do this. My kids have been to 2 different primaries, I am CoG at a primary and work at another primary......so not vast experience but a few schools and obviously all their peers/friends/family at other primaries.

Primaries cover what they need to in the PHSE/RSE curriculum. And as many others have said this varies from What do our families look like style teaching in lower KS2, to possibly a bit more in upper KS2 - but it will all be documented and will have been out to parents for consultation.

I thhink you need to understand the purpose of this week before you create an assembly - and then understand how that fits within your school policies.

(The schools I am involved in are all completely inclusive schools and supportive of all people and choices without having LGB week.....)

ScrollingLeaves · 06/01/2023 23:01

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease· Today 22:49
Well again, not my idea and I'm not in charge.

Sorry, Sensible.

Suggestions - looking for celebration.
Read some of Sappho’s beautiful poetry and show a picture of Greek woman on a vase.

Talk about the great artists Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci who were gay.
And there would be lots of examples in artistic fields.
Tell about Oscar Wilde including his famous plays but how he was sent to prison.
Perhaps posters could point to great people of other heritages known to be gay.

Try to find firefighters, soldiers, police who are gay so as to show it isn’t sissy.

Speak a bit about the history and how our laws changed.

SensibleSuggestionsOnAPostcardPlease · 06/01/2023 23:06

Primaries cover what they need to in the PHSE/RSE curriculum. And as many others have said this varies from What do our families look like style teaching in lower KS2, to possibly a bit more in upper KS2 - but it will all be documented and will have been out to parents for consultation.

Yes I a m aware of the curriculum, teaching it and all that.

I think you need to understand the purpose of this week before you create an assembly - and then understand how that fits within your school policies.

You are assuming this is actually planned in any way shape or form, you clearly have a very different experience of salt. You are assuming schools actually follow their policies in a they rarely do.

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