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Mary Harrington - How Andrew Tate smashed the patriarchy

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ArabellaScott · 06/01/2023 20:06

Always an interesting read.

'“patriarchal” social codes are often not codes that entrench male supremacy so much as modulate untrammelled male aggression and sexuality in the interests of women and children'

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'feminist scholar Juliet Flower McCannell: “what we have in the place of the patriarchy is the Regime of the Brother.” That is: an order where men and women interact as siblings, governed only by a dog-eat-dog rubric of individual competition and advantage.'

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'Andrew Tate occasions so much fascination and revulsion because he epitomises masculinity under the Regime of the Brother: in other words, a manhood that has smashed the patriarchy. Our challenge now is to find our way out the other side of this destruction of all norms, toward a new realism about those features of our equally dignified but irreducibly sexed human nature that we need to accommodate. Unless we can manage this, it won’t matter how loudly we all condemn Andrew Tate. We’ll still be living in his world.'

reactionaryfeminist.substack.com/p/how-andrew-tate-smashed-the-patriarchy

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namitynamechange · 14/04/2023 15:44

@Motherclayton thanks for the link!

DemiColon · 14/04/2023 23:05

FigRollsAlly · 07/01/2023 23:45

Interesting but have only skim read so far and didn’t like the line at the top saying this is what happens when we stop honouring men for self restraint. Do men really need to be “honoured” to make them behave well to women? Sadly, perhaps some (most?) do but on first read it seems as if she is painting patriarchy as overall a benign force because it keeps men’s true nature in check.

If a society makes self-restraint a virtue that people recognize, more people will do it, whether it's sexual behaviour, or consumerism, or alcohol consumption, hard work, or whatever.

I'm not sure why some people think that social norms, taboos, and expectations don't affect what people do?

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