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My MSP has blocked me on Twitter.

36 replies

MrsJackRackham · 04/01/2023 18:44

Because I told her she should hang her head in shame for voting for GRA.
I didn't swear, wasn't aggressive or said anything inflammatory. Just that she should be ashamed of herself.
Touched a nerve Christina?
Btw, this is the same MSP who phoned the police over some stickers at her office 🙄

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ArabellaScott · 04/01/2023 19:01

Honestly the absolute embarrassment of half of the MSPs. Not answering comms from constituents; berating, sneering and patronising when they do respond. Arrogant dimwits, many of them. Fine if they don't agree, but the conduct of some of these people has been utterly outrageous and a real let down of the Scottish political system overall.

They don't seem to understand or be willing to accept the whole job of a Minister; to represent their constituents and at the very fucking least treat them with respect despite political differences.

They've made a fucking mockery of devolution. They ought to be bloody ashamed of themselves.

OllyBJolly · 04/01/2023 19:03

Agree with all you say, @ArabellaScott

jtaeapa · 04/01/2023 19:05

Hmmm - not sure that hang your head in shame is exactly constructive?

"I am disappointed that you voted for xxx because [explanation]" would have been better and probably not got you blocked.

SaintLoy · 04/01/2023 19:09

I'd block you if I were that MSP. Not enough hours in the day for abuse. A more constructive msg like @jtaeapa suggests would have been better.

Boomboom22 · 04/01/2023 19:12

Put in a formal complaint to the snp that she is blocking her own constituents from contacting her. And to your mp. Etc. We must start complaining about due process everywhere we can. Try to be pro safeguarding and positive about trans, negative about men who use loopholes if you want to be listened to.

dropthevipers · 04/01/2023 19:12

jtaeapa · 04/01/2023 19:05

Hmmm - not sure that hang your head in shame is exactly constructive?

"I am disappointed that you voted for xxx because [explanation]" would have been better and probably not got you blocked.

You know that's bollocks too. Anything other than complete capitulation to the kool aid mantra means you must be a terf so outer darkness for you.

Original poster
MrsJackRackham · 04/01/2023 19:12

Please highlight the abusive words I used.

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ArabellaScott · 04/01/2023 19:28

Ah, sorry, OP, disagreement is now classed as abuse, did they not tell you?

ArabellaScott · 04/01/2023 19:29

Also women are not permitted to be angry. We must smile politely as we explain why we don't want our rights stripped away, piece by piece.

Abhannmor · 04/01/2023 19:34

She can't even agree to differ with OP though . She's in the wrong career. Nemesis follows hubris - sometimes at the ballot box.

Waitwhat23 · 04/01/2023 20:01

Joe Fitzpatrick of the SNP is pre-emptively blocking members of the electorate on Twitter using block lists.

Loads of women are reporting that they haven't interacted with him on Twitter (or anywhere else) but are still blocked. Loads of women who leafleted and chapped doors for the SNP are pre-emptively blocked.

Loads of women are blocked by Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter. Our nation's leader. Again, many have had no interaction with her at all.

It doesn't matter if you're polite, rude or have never even heard of them. If you're guilty of 'wrongthink', an avenue to communicate with your elected representative is denied to you in Scotland.

FOJN · 04/01/2023 20:03

I am disappointed that you voted for xxx because [explanation]" would have been better and probably not got you blocked.

If you need to gently explain why voting for a bill which permits convicted sex offenders to easily change their name, which effectively bypasses safeguarding procedures, then the MSP in question should hang their head in shame for taking tax payers money for a job they are clearly not suited to doing.

I'm so over good manners. I do not feel the need to be polite to the fuck nuggets who voted to permit convicted male sex offenders to be housed in the female prison estate. Exactly how fucking stupid do you need to be to think this is a good idea?

BlockedbyHfromSteps · 04/01/2023 20:03

SaintLoy · 04/01/2023 19:09

I'd block you if I were that MSP. Not enough hours in the day for abuse. A more constructive msg like @jtaeapa suggests would have been better.

Where’s the abuse from what the OP said?

Grammarnut · 05/01/2023 16:13

You did not make a constructive comment as to why she was wrong. MPs, MSPs etc get a lot of abuse and the only answer is often to block the abuser. Explain your point rather than making what amounts to an ad hominem attack.

RoseslnTheHospital · 05/01/2023 16:17

An ad hominem "attack" is a failure to argue effectively. Not an abusive comment. Are people really suggesting that saying to a politician that they should hang their head in shame is abusive?? I would say that to a doorstepping politician to their face and expect them to be able to state why they felt what they did was reasonable and not shameful. It's probably even been said by one politician to another in the HoC at some point in time.

CovertImage · 05/01/2023 16:18

Grammarnut · 05/01/2023 16:13

You did not make a constructive comment as to why she was wrong. MPs, MSPs etc get a lot of abuse and the only answer is often to block the abuser. Explain your point rather than making what amounts to an ad hominem attack.

It's not abuse and you do know presumably, that they're answerable to US, not the other way round

Waitwhat23 · 05/01/2023 16:34

Who was the politician who said something about their job being to govern people/the electorate and it was pointed out to them that they are meant to, in fact, serve the people/electorate?

waterwitch · 05/01/2023 17:48

The SNP has a very particular take on democracy

Oher · 05/01/2023 19:26

The government had already stated that it’s up to individual MPs how they manage their social media accounts.
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/599783

She isn’t preventing you from contacting her, she’s preventing you from using Twitter to contact her, and that’s a very different thing. Given the number of death/rape threats received by female MPs (apparently 30 before breakfast is not unusual) I have some sympathy with her action, your use of the words ‘you should hang…’ was probably triggering for her after all the death threats and she may not even have read past that.

Telling someone that they should ‘hang their head in shame’ has never changed anyone’s mind ever. If you really want to change her mind as opposed to exacerbating a tribalistic conflict, I’d suggest you write to her, on paper, using much less inflammatory/accusatory language. More ‘I’m writing to explain to you why so many of your constituents, including myself, are very concerned about X…”

MargaritaPie · 05/01/2023 19:38

Even if it wasn't meant literally, "hang your head" isn't really a good choice of words.

I can understand why she would read that and instantly block you in response.

RoseslnTheHospital · 05/01/2023 19:38

Maybe tell that to the MPs and other politicians who have said that to and about other politicians.

It's absurd to suggest that anyone would think that the phrase hang your head in shame has any connection to actual hanging.

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2023 19:43

Waitwhat23 · 04/01/2023 20:01

Joe Fitzpatrick of the SNP is pre-emptively blocking members of the electorate on Twitter using block lists.

Loads of women are reporting that they haven't interacted with him on Twitter (or anywhere else) but are still blocked. Loads of women who leafleted and chapped doors for the SNP are pre-emptively blocked.

Loads of women are blocked by Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter. Our nation's leader. Again, many have had no interaction with her at all.

It doesn't matter if you're polite, rude or have never even heard of them. If you're guilty of 'wrongthink', an avenue to communicate with your elected representative is denied to you in Scotland.

Hm. I wonder if there are ways to work out what these blocklists' rules consist of?

Waitwhat23 · 05/01/2023 19:52

I did have to laugh at the 'I'm writing to inform you of my concerns, which many of your constituents share...' comment given the amount of anecdotal evidence that MSP's staffers were screening correspondence saying exactly that, leading to MSP's claiming they were unaware of the issues surrounding the GRR because no one had contacted them about it. That's why the letter writing by Scottish feminists ramped up - so there was more and more evidence that there had been concerns raised.

At least one woman I know of asked for a meeting with their MSP at their regular surgery and was told a straight no.

It's laughably naive, given the dismissal of survivors evidence, denial of the existence (or active suppression) of correspondence and use of block lists, to think that the SG want to hear opinions which differ from their own.

Waitwhat23 · 05/01/2023 20:03

RoseslnTheHospital · 05/01/2023 19:38

Maybe tell that to the MPs and other politicians who have said that to and about other politicians.

It's absurd to suggest that anyone would think that the phrase hang your head in shame has any connection to actual hanging.

Posters can't possibly be correlating the phrase 'hang in their head in shame' with actual hanging surely? That would be simply idiotic.

Here's a Scottish politics example of the phrase being used - www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/ewing-should-hang-his-head-in-shame-over-failure-to-deliv-231804/

They can't possibly be accusing the MSP in question of suggesting that the person should actually be hanged, surely?

I'm becoming less and less surprised though.