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December 6th- L'école Polytechnique

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/12/2022 00:07

In the closing minutes of December 6th, I realised we did not have a thread to mark the Montréal Massacre of women at an engineering school.

The murderer, Marc Lépine, specifically targeted female students. He killed 14 women and only women; the men were allowed to leave.

Remember these women.

Nathalie Provost was a woman who survived, and she was able to report that he accused the women of studying engineering because they were "all feminists".

In Lépine's suicide note, he listed various feminist figures he wanted to kill, including the first female police officer and the first female firefighter.

Acknowledgements: this is but a summary of a section in Feminism for Women by Julie Bindel.

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howdoesatoastermaketoast · 07/12/2022 00:15

Heartbreaking stuff.

I was 14 but I don't even remember hearing about it at the time.

BenCooperSuperTrouper · 07/12/2022 00:18

Look at this horror of a tweet. If only the women who were killed had thought to self-identify as men.

twitter.com/durhamcollege/status/1600209125518237696?s=61&t=sVCmtt5G_Vi2W2bETLagvg

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RhannionKPSS · 07/12/2022 00:25

Heartbreaking, those poor women whose futures were ripped from them. My respects to their family & friends.
May they Rest In Peace.

Yet again, just as last year a trans identifying man is allowed to speak at an event to mark the murders of those women by a misogynist. Canada is in the grip of distressing, embarrassing, misogynistic, death encouraging cult at the moment.
What the hell happened to Canada?

DifficultBloodyWoman · 07/12/2022 00:27

Thank you for highlighting this. I didn’t know that Canada had a day of remembrance for this. He certainly knew the difference between men and women.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/12/2022 00:30

BenCooperSuperTrouper · 07/12/2022 00:18

Look at this horror of a tweet. If only the women who were killed had thought to self-identify as men.

twitter.com/durhamcollege/status/1600209125518237696?s=61&t=sVCmtt5G_Vi2W2bETLagvg

He didn't even care when women tried to save their lives by telling him they weren't feminists. Never mind if they'd tried to deny their sex. He didn't care about self-identification! He cared that he'd identified them as women and feminists.

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ByTheGrace · 07/12/2022 00:51

BenCooperSuperTrouper · 07/12/2022 00:18

Look at this horror of a tweet. If only the women who were killed had thought to self-identify as men.

twitter.com/durhamcollege/status/1600209125518237696?s=61&t=sVCmtt5G_Vi2W2bETLagvg

I had shared that Tweet, but ended up removing it because I couldn't reconcile with the wording and then I felt awful because these women should be remembered.
The murderer shouldn't be named though, we shouldn't give these men the infamy and notoriety that they crave.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/12/2022 00:55
Flowers Thanks for the thread. All those bright young women, breaking the stupid stereotypes, cut down by an inadequate loser. My DD is a young engineer, it makes my blood run cold that he could just mow down young women like her.

I don't remember hearing about it at the time, I don't know if it was covered outside Canada.

ByTheGrace · 07/12/2022 01:11

RhannionKPSS · 07/12/2022 00:25

Heartbreaking, those poor women whose futures were ripped from them. My respects to their family & friends.
May they Rest In Peace.

Yet again, just as last year a trans identifying man is allowed to speak at an event to mark the murders of those women by a misogynist. Canada is in the grip of distressing, embarrassing, misogynistic, death encouraging cult at the moment.
What the hell happened to Canada?

Why does this keep happening. Ah...DV, femicide awareness talk, let's have a transwoman tell us how it is. I can't get my head around how inappropriate this is.

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IwantToRetire · 07/12/2022 01:42

The 6th December is one of the 16 Days of Action Against Violence Against Women and has been marked for some years (decades) now. www.womensgrid.org.uk/?p=20672

That is why so many reclaim the marches are held at this time of year. There are some scheduled for 8th, 9th & 10th www.womensgrid.org.uk/?p=20708 (although many are now organised by Student Unions and Trade Unions, but some by local RCCs)

The RtN in Newcastle was booed by male bystanders this year.

Helleofabore · 07/12/2022 08:14

Thank you for the thread pots.

It is important to remember those women.

I don’t agree that the names of the murderer shouldn’t be mentioned, because it is important to remember these women, and to honor them by knowing as much about them and how they died.

They weren’t killed by some faceless entity.

334bu · 07/12/2022 08:23

twitter.com/JenniferAnne_s/status/1600221675995308032

Brave woman challenged speaker st this event. Recording in above tweet.

Helleofabore · 07/12/2022 08:35

I don’t understand why that male speaker was chosen?

Helleofabore · 07/12/2022 08:38

But I think that should be another thread and leave this for remembering those women.

Ofcourseshecan · 07/12/2022 12:12

IwantToRetire · 07/12/2022 01:42

The 6th December is one of the 16 Days of Action Against Violence Against Women and has been marked for some years (decades) now. www.womensgrid.org.uk/?p=20672

That is why so many reclaim the marches are held at this time of year. There are some scheduled for 8th, 9th & 10th www.womensgrid.org.uk/?p=20708 (although many are now organised by Student Unions and Trade Unions, but some by local RCCs)

The RtN in Newcastle was booed by male bystanders this year.

The RtN in Newcastle was booed by male bystanders this year.

Shame. I would love to speak to some of those men individually to ask why.

I know the northeast has a reputation for sexism. But I think the genderist movement is having a wider effect, a subtle devaluing and diminishing of women in general. Very disturbing.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/12/2022 15:48

Geneviève Bergeron
Hélène Colgan
Nathalie Croteau
Barbara Daigneault
Anne-Marie Edward
Maud Haviernick
Maryse Laganière
Maryse Leclair
Anne-Marie Lemay
Sonia Pelletier
Michèle Richard
Annie St-Arneault
Annie Turcotte
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz

Rest in peace, dear ones. I am sorry and angry both that your lives were stolen from you, and that your future achievements were stolen from this world. We will never know what you would have gone on to do.

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picklemewalnuts · 07/12/2022 15:51

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/12/2022 15:48

Geneviève Bergeron
Hélène Colgan
Nathalie Croteau
Barbara Daigneault
Anne-Marie Edward
Maud Haviernick
Maryse Laganière
Maryse Leclair
Anne-Marie Lemay
Sonia Pelletier
Michèle Richard
Annie St-Arneault
Annie Turcotte
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz

Rest in peace, dear ones. I am sorry and angry both that your lives were stolen from you, and that your future achievements were stolen from this world. We will never know what you would have gone on to do.

Yes.

picklemewalnuts · 07/12/2022 17:18

And thank you for posting, purgatory!

RhannionKPSS · 07/12/2022 20:43

picklemewalnuts · 07/12/2022 15:51

Yes.

Thank you 🙏

RhannionKPSS · 07/12/2022 20:44

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/12/2022 15:48

Geneviève Bergeron
Hélène Colgan
Nathalie Croteau
Barbara Daigneault
Anne-Marie Edward
Maud Haviernick
Maryse Laganière
Maryse Leclair
Anne-Marie Lemay
Sonia Pelletier
Michèle Richard
Annie St-Arneault
Annie Turcotte
Barbara Klucznik-Widajewicz

Rest in peace, dear ones. I am sorry and angry both that your lives were stolen from you, and that your future achievements were stolen from this world. We will never know what you would have gone on to do.

Thank you 🙏

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 08/12/2022 00:55

Found some more.

This is a montage of their faces.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 08/12/2022 01:10

I hope these are better quality images.

December 6th- L'école Polytechnique
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Helleofabore · 08/12/2022 03:03

Thank for sharing their photos purgatory.

picklemewalnuts · 08/12/2022 07:16

I was 20, at university. I don't understand how I missed it, except perhaps that it was pre 24 hour news. You had to try, in those days. I suppose at that point in my life I didn't.

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